Finally tested F8 on a track!

Huh. How did my country get mixed into all of this?

 

You are concluding there is little or no discernible driving difference between the F8 and the 488 based upon little credible evidence and the absence of your own. I will reserve judgment until I have the opportunity to personally drive the F8.

 

Coincid my conclusion on the 488/F8 performance comparison has been based purely upon the personal experiences of two fellow members on this board.

If you feel these members experiences should both be dismissed as unqualified nonsense lacking in credibility then I guess that is your prerogative. If it helps, I'm sure F8 will prove to be a great car, but will it drive or feel better than 488 by any notable margin - I can't see it. Perhaps you have become a little too emotionally invested as a consequence of getting high hopes you are buying the same car as Pista just because it shares the same core engine?

 

Coincid is just hoping to find a way forward from his Lambo and has seized upon F8 as being some kind of major revolution of 488 and Pista combined due to having the same basic power unit. However what he has seemingly forgotten is that a Pista has been set up a whole lot differently to the 488 and F8 which is why it is so easy to tell the difference in the way Pista drives against these. This is annoying the crapper out of Coincid big time as he feels because F8 has the same power unit it MUST drive the same as a Pista. He seems reluctant to acknowledge the F8 and 488 as being basically the same set up, and car, because in times gone by he has rubbished the 488 as being not good enough for his liking. So now there are members who have reported they can't tell much difference between the 488 and F8 has freaked him out a bit because I think he has one on order.

Added to this reality are reports that the F8 sounds like a vacuum cleaner from the outside also hasn't been very helpful. I wouldn't worry too much about it even though a few have been a bit rude and disrespectful....little doubt about that one. These guys will get over it eventually.

 

It's pretty clear F8 is no game changer. Nice car though for those without a 488 looking to enter the fray.

 

I have to admit there is nothing quite like a good fox hunt but it appears on this occasion that the hounds were released a bit too early and wound up ahead of themselves. Oh well - there will always be a "next time".

 

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, F8 is a slightly quicker, more technical and better looking 488. What has certain board members loosing it is that the F8 is the third iteration of the 458. Typically Ferrari does a major mid cycle refresh and then a brand new series, the F8 is a gap car to compete against the 720S which demolished the 488.

 

Very true. The looks is subjective though. But it is ijdeed a car Ferrari put out very quickly as a response to the 720S. This is not an assumption. This I got straight from the Cavalinos mouth.

But as I explained earlier on as was conveyed to me. Power wise, little noticable difference. Makes sense as torque moves cars, and 1.4% increase is not much.
It does feel better in terms of ESC and SSC. A bit less intrusive is what I was told, as well as a greater ability to let the rear step out.
Slightly better interior feel.
It is very much 488 at heart, but refined in a subtle way.

 

Just an expression....

 

Haha, I know. Just thought it was fittingly deadpan thing to say, in lieu of how off the rails this all has gone

 

Hey look at you all bright eyed and bushy tailed.
This thread is in need of comical releif

 

According to Ferrari, the F8 is closer to the Pista, rather than the 488.

 

Not really; what matters is power and that's why the Pista is a lot quicker than the base 488:

 

A quote from Hamlet, to be precise.

 

Maybe in a straight line. But some of us expect more from a Ferrari than just a point and shoot in a straight line..

 

I will have to disagree somewhat. Hp is just a function of torque. Torque is power.

As I mentioned somewhere else, a tech told me something interesting regarding the Pista and its power in relation to the F8.
As you know, Ferrari regulates power in the lower gears by pulling timing and boost. What he said was specifically that the Pista runs both more timing and more boost in the lower gears compared to the F8. So while the power numbers on top are the same in 7th gear wot, it's a different story in 3, 4, 5, and 8 apparently. Since Ferrari has gotten this variant to play with, when tuning their cars as well as creating their personality, it makes a lot of sense.

Something else I've been wondering about. Does anybody know for a fact that the 488, F8 and Pista shares the same gearratios, as well as final drive ratio?

 

Really? I thought that was from James Joyce, or was that one “...something rotten in the city of Dublin?”

I think your underwear is a couple sizes too small.

 

When you say according to Ferrari. Are you relaying info a Ferrari rep has told you, or?

Because I've been told the opposite by two different reps on two different occasions.

 

Torque is what you feel and HP is how long you feel it.

 

ROFL!