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Ferrari 360 with F1 stuck in first and won’t start

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  1. Marcopolo3382

    Marcopolo3382 Karting

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    #1 Marcopolo3382, Nov 21, 2019
    Hello everyone, I experienced the issue of my 360 with an F1 transmission being stuck in gear and not switching to neutral therefore preventing it from starting. I just wanted to help anyone out experiencing this issue. I believe I’ve seen this problem before on here somewhere. According to Ferrari the car is supposed to be put in first before it is shut off. I never used to do this until one day I saw a video explaining that the reason you hear an alarm before taking the key out of the ignition is because the system is warning you that the car is not in gear and has a possibility of rolling if you are on an incline of any type. This made sense to me so I started putting it in first before shutting it off. Well, today I couldn’t get it into neutral to start it. Now I would be baffled if I hadn’t experienced this issue years ago with a Maserati. I was on a slight incline in a drive way and I couldn’t get it to go into neutral and it prevented the car from being started. That day I called three dealerships and they had never heard of the issue so I thought I was stuck and with the closest Maserati and Ferrari dealership or independent almost 400 miles away I was getting frustrated. Some how by accident (or violent fit of rage) I rocked the car back and forth and I guess that relieved some weight or stress on the transmission and it went into neutral! Well today I got in the 360 and it wouldn’t go into neutral so I immediately got out and pushed it back and forth by the frame where the “pillar” would be on a normal car and then jumped in and hit the paddles and it went into neutral. So, I hope this helps anyone experiencing this issue cause I know how frustrating it can be. It seems like a more serious issue in the moment.


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  2. GTUnit

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    #2 GTUnit, Nov 21, 2019
    Great info. Thanks for taking the time to share.
     
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  3. Skidkid

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    #3 Skidkid, Nov 21, 2019
    Yep, pretty well known issue and solution. Try this, particularly if you are on an incline: Car in N, engage Emergency Brake, let off brake so it sits on the e-brake, foot back on brake and engage 1st, shut off car. With this approach you don't load the drive-line nearly as much and N issues should be a thing of the past for the most part.
     
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  4. Marcopolo3382

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    #4 Marcopolo3382, Nov 21, 2019
    That solution had crossed my mind as well. I will be doing that from now on. Thanks


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  5. Flyingbrick242

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    #5 Flyingbrick242, Nov 21, 2019
    Great insight!
    Makes perfect sense with ebrake first, this would be a normal process with a three pedal vehicle which is the same gearbox as a F1 minus the third pedal.
    Thanks to the OP for bringing it to our attention.
     
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  6. Kitchdog

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    #6 Kitchdog, Nov 26, 2019
    I think sometimes as well I just haven’t had my foot down on the brake pedal hard enough when trying to get it back into neutral!
     
  7. Skidkid

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    #7 Skidkid, Nov 26, 2019
    Some say this but it would only be an issue if you have bird legs. The brake switch isn't that hard to activate, it is a switch activated when the pedal moves. I suspect, they rock the car some when they push on the brake repetitively. That is why it works sometimes and doesn't some times.
     
  8. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #8 Rifledriver, Nov 26, 2019
    Bad brake vacuum check valves are really common, almost routine so it can be hard to push the pedal down far enough to trigger the switch with the motor off.

    It is a sign the check valve needs updating and is a real safety issue.

    Who services the car? It should have been noticed. It is a cheap fix.
     
  9. Skidkid

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    #9 Skidkid, Nov 26, 2019
    Thank you. I didn't know this so my response was incorrect.
     

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