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Upgrading A/C and Radiator While I'm In There

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  1. Ferraridoc

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  7. Ferraridoc

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    Too clever. The only vent that I could find that fits into a gauge hole (~50mm) was from a De Havilland sea plane, and the actual air opening was tiny. I thought 50mm vent equals 50mm hole, but... no. It would have been a neat solution. And yes, I'd still enter it into a concorso (this is Qld, after all) - I'm still convinced that it would be possible to score zero, if you really tried hard.
     
  8. Aircon

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    You're going to be so disappointed when the a/c is still only just better than inadequate
     
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  9. conan

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    I could not find any references to temperature ranges or EMC tests for the PWM controllers ... so I assume commercial and not so well tested. It might be a good idea to run it in freezing temp and in high temp as well to see that it works ok and not fails in a bad way. Voltage might not be a problem unless the behaviour at low voltage also leads to failures.

    In general, consumer products do not work very well in automotive environments.
     
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    Once his a/c is tip top, the two final hurdles are the solar panel windshield ("unfixable") and hot air leaks blowing in from the foot well which they did from new.

    When I drive home from Atlanta which I do many times during the year it is usually late afternoon and I-20 is dead on west for me. The center of my chest feels like an oven from the sun and that windshield. I have even had to hang a t shirt on me like a lobster bib. You don't sit under one with a slope like that but a few other cars. Miserable.
     
  11. Ferraridoc

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    I'll be running a little cold air duct to it when it's finally mounted
     
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    I'm thinking (have been for some time) of putting the 3M Crystalline film on the glass, including the windscreen. I have religiously sealed all the hot air ingress points, although the hole where the electric power steering motor sits needs a bit of attention. I'm also thinking of putting some heat insulation material on the firewall. And I'm planning to instal new door rubbers (maybe the next time I start an insane project).
     
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    I’m sure you’ve read my musings on A/C in our cars. I’m pretty convinced that we need a one way valve of some sort to allow egress of air from the cabin. That’s the only way to create a nice flow of cold air in if it can displace the warmer air inside. I have tried opening the windows just a bit and the result is much cooler cabin temps.
    Just sayin’
     
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    Absolutely true....I do the same thing.
     
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    OK. So, the radiator, fans, and condenser fit perfectly in the space, but when bolted together as one unit, they can't be manoeuvred to actually get to the space. I tinkered with modifying the fan mounts so they could be installed after the radiator, but it wasn't going to work.
    So I took this thing out.

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    But the top brackets foul the chassis. There's a small dag from the old fan bracket that hits the right one, however, both brackets are touching. Made worse by the gussets that were added. I think I can grind a bit off for clearance without losing too much strength, but otherwise will have to start again.
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    Grind first before redoing everything!

     
  23. Ferraridoc

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    Yep!
     
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    OK, cut away some of the brackets and now it all fits. They are still quite strong, but I'll put a dob of weld where I cut too far into the gusset (dangnammit!)
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    I'm glad I decided against attempting this, I'd probably still be working on it.
     

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