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  1. acd683

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    Hi all
    My local dealer recently acquired a 73 GTC in blu ortis (I believe. It’s contemporary cousin is pozzi I would say). It is stunning. We are interested in a vintage Ferrari and this one seems to be in our price range. It is not a model that I know a ton about. Does anyone have any strong opinions? It would theoretically be our fourth but all of the others are modern. Thanks for any advice.
     
  2. Zanny1

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    You need to clarify what you are referring to.
    There are no '73 365 GTC models.
    The last 365 GTC/4 was in 1972, I believe.
    Your post makes no sense.
     
  3. acd683

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    I meant to type 72. I assume other than that it makes sense to you.
     
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  4. Marcel Massini

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    Chassis number?

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  5. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I want a GTC/4 myself. I think they are really neat cars, and blue is a good color for one. They have generally been a tough sell in the market these days (I watch it pretty closely). They aren't sports cars, but rather grand touring cars made for long distance travel, and from everything I can see, they excel at it.
     
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  6. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ
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    Best sound amongst classic Ferraris of that era, avoid silver and red, blue is a great color for them. I drove five and loved them, there was a tunnel nearby, I called it my sound chamber:) Very pleasant for long trips and its rarity is appealing in itself.
     
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  7. afwrench

    afwrench Formula Junior

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    Hi Adam, I have owned C4 for many years and love the car.It has been stone reliable and is a great car for the long haul.A bit tight under the hood when doing work but still a car that you can work on yourself. Once the car is in tune it tends to stay that way.My car is Marrone [brown] with a saddle interior. People love that it is not red and as stated above it's rarity is part of it's charm. Good luck,Mike
     
  8. Zanny1

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    I owned 15693 for 15 years and wish I still had it. Wonderful cars with lots of character. Motors are a stinker to rebuild (correctly). Ask me how I know.
     
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  9. jhkm12345

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    Adam, I believe that it's my car that you're speaking of. I'd be more than happy to discuss details of the car. It's currently listed with Motorcar Studio in Atlanta. Feel free to PM me directly and we'll exchange contact info.
     
  10. acd683

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    Thanks to everyone for the replies. This car is actually in Illinois, however, and came from New York. I don't know the chassis number but will find out soon I am sure.
     
  11. JP365

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    80% of a Daytona for 1/3 the price. In 1987 my father was torn between the C4 and the 365 GT 2+2. In the end he went for the 365 GT 2+2 because he liked the older design and feel. My memory is that the C4 felt more modern and was definitely quicker. The back seat in the C4 is a package rack at best, where as the GT 2+2 is a proper 2+2. If you’ve never had a vintage Ferrari, they are an acquired taste. I love mine, but there are definitely days when a modern car is appealing. Mine hates Chicago traffic and has been known to puke coolant when there’s a Cubs game. Out on the open road, it’s a classic front engine v12. They pull like a freight train and just go and go.
     
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  12. donv

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    One reason I want a C/4 is because I think it's a perfect bookend with my 365GT 2+2. They are only a year or so apart, and yet the C/4 feels like it's a decade newer, at least in my opinion. In a way, the last of the old and the first of the new.
     
  13. loflyer47

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    Message me when you get a chance. I bought my 1972. 365GTC/4 in 1976 and still own, and drive it ..today...wonderful car. Anything you ever wanted to know, or care to know,...I can probably answer...
     
  14. jippiejake

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    I remember your black gtc4. Beautiful!!
     
  15. Zanny1

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    Hey Mike.... yeah wish I had held on to it, after those bozos over in Carlsbad ruined it. What a sad story. Glad you finished yours, which is just outstanding.
     
  16. sam231

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    The GTC4 cost $5K more than a Daytona new. Funny how times change. Mine was originally Verde Medio Nijinsky (lime green), a color that certainly turns heads. It is in the process of being repainted from the burgundy color (you can see in the avatar) to period correct Blue Sera Metallic which I think goes well with the body design. In the 13 years i have owned the car it has gone 40+K miles and the odometer has a cumulative 105K. It is sublime on long trips, plenty of power, luggage space, and decent a/c if you put a shade on the rear window. If you do not have a lead foot the two gas tanks give you a 400+ mile driving range- great for open spaces, and it happily drinks 89 octane fuel. The car is expensive to maintain if you do not do your own work but the smiles it generates offsets the dollars spent. Also, it is relatively rare, maybe 350-400 around today - much rarer than a Daytona.
    Happy Holidays everyone!
     
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  17. Marcel Massini

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    Yes indeed.

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  18. steved033

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    Some internet detective work on Blu Ortis shows 16025 being passed around from 2014 on. It seems to maybe be here in Atlanta now, not Illinois. Was this shade of blue common?

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  19. Marcel Massini

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    16025: one of 11 GTC/4's originally painted in Blu Ortis.
    New in Florence, Italy.
    Later in NY, then FL, then IN, then OH, then in TX and thereafter in AL.
    Below pic taken in 2015 (NOT my photo).

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  20. jippiejake

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    Hope you are well..
    #15657 in Palm Springs. 100 + degrees, and the ac is working good!!
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  21. Marcel Massini

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    Absolutely fantastic!

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  22. Cobraownr

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    FWIW, Evo and YouTube automotive journalist Chris Harris said (while recently opining, not too charitably, on the new Ferrari Roma) that the 365 GTC/4 was one his five favorite Ferrari GT cars. The other four: 456M three pedal; 612 Scaglietti 3 pedal ("Aged with real elegance." But I wonder if he's driven a 612 OTO with the improved F1 transmission?); FF; and F12. About the 365 GTC/4, Harris said it's a "...sensational car to drive. It's a real honey."
     
  23. johnaz

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    Any chance this one is for sale?
    Is it the dark blue?
    Viewed the dark blue one in Atlanta last week, not good enough for me, was red at one time and can see red in places showing, so not stripped to bare metal for repaint back to original blue.
    Thanks,
    John
     
  24. Marcel Massini

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    15657 was originally Rosso Cherry 95.3.9301.

    Marcel Massini
     
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