Pista Spider Production Numbers - What have you heard?

I don't care if you own an effing 250 LM. Answer my question.

 

nothing left to discuss, clearly. hey i just own a 456 what do i know lol.

 

Exactly.

 

exactly what - are you delirious? do you agree 3k is a ton or do you think its limited. you haven't managed to stait your view - what is it?
do you think theyre making 750 coupes and 250 apertas? what do you think? what have you heard?

 

They said the same thing to me when the Speciale was coming out and its still doing pretty well in the market. I'll never forget being offered allocations from multiple dealers. I thought they must be really pumping them out. They will have made the Pista coupe for less time than the Speciale when its all said and done. The Spider is obviously much lower numbers. We will know more with time, but wemay never know the exact numbers.

When you're blasting down the road, wind in your face (for the spider!) do you care?

 

Of course. Just responding to the op.

 

As for 458S and SA ratio was 3:1.
For Pista and Pista S, still the ratio of my country is 3:1.
But for SA it was only 3-4 cars, and for Pista S, 10-11 cars.
So, my guess is 3 times SA number so max 1500 but my guess is more like 1200.
Well I am one of 1200 and I am happy.

One case I heard was one spider customer backed out within region and it was allocated to one of TOP clients who already had coupe, but factory suddenly canceled the promise. Who knows...

 

Most of the info collect by months on this website let us think the number of 488 PS will not more than 900 max 1000

 

Well one thing is close to certain and that is there are more Pista Spiders than 458SA otherwise Ferrari would have put a plaque on them saying one of 499 or something such. To me 800-1200 seems to be the most believable range. As long as Ferrari does not push too many of them in a certain market the prices should hold up fine.

 

Latest speculation say much close to 700 and I am starting to believe , we are at the end of 2019 and only very very very few pic on IG and autogespot.

 

If 3:1 ratio holds- 700 spiders and 2100 coupes?

 

That number certainly feels right to me...seems to be a ton of them made...

 

Are the Pista Piloti included?

 

I don’t know that I consider 2100 coupes worldwide a “ton”

 

With 591 pages on the Pista Photo thread and only 95 pages on the Pista Spider Photo thread and production ending next quarter the unscientific ratio is 6 to 1.
I haven’t seen many Spiders, somewhere more than 600 but less than 900 sounds about right, or 200 to 300 in the US.


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I cannot comment on overall worldwide numbers , but UK numbers are cleary greater than 458 SA, but talking to 5 dealers I know personally and comparing the numbers to SA and TDF ( 499 vs 799) they got per dealer Uk numbers will be very slightly above TDF levels . Not a precise measure I know pure guesstimate . We will know in 3 months as production ends. So I agree with previous post 900 to 1000 looks likely

 

We will see ... but I think that for a marketing strategy the pista spider production numbers will never be over 850 / 900 pcs. The car was offered only by factory invitation , nobody will be interested in an invitation ( in the future ) if this will be for a car with a production history of a thousand of over pieces. I am quite sure that this type of car ( pista spider “ only by factory invitation “ ) it is the new Ferrari ‘s language for limited series ( as it was numbering the car in the past )... so the car will be very rare such as for ex a TDF only without “ the numbered plaque “ ( today and in the future? only reserved for Ferrari HYPERCAR such as the Monza’s ). At the end is only a different language but the contents will not change ( production of maximum 700/800 cars and only for very few vip / top customers ) . This my opinion.

 

I think your coupe number is low. 3k-4K is more likely.

 

700 spiders and 2100 coupes you have about 3k total. Not sure it’s more than that.

 

There will be more Pistas than Speciales, and I’ve understood there to have been around 3k Speciale coupes made.

 

From what everyone here opined, it appears that US market will get about 300 spiders and 1000 to 1200 coups, so 3:1 or at worst 4:1 seems to be the correct ratio and both numbers are similar to the Speciale production with PS not being numbered and thus having a slightly larger production run.


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About total of 2150 Coupé and Spiders produced in first 3 Quarters 2019, about 1000 only in Q3...if pistas are the only special series cars produced in 2019...i think so. Image Unavailable, Please Login


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I hate to burst your dealer's bubble, but there is no such "invitation" from Ferrari corporate to get a Pista Spider. I was offered a Pista Spider allocation, but had to buy a $350K Lusso the dealer had on hand.

Respectfully declined.

 

Don't forget Q4 '19 and Q1 '20 at least, which neither include the factory August recess that Q3 has.

When comparing production numbers to the 458S and SA, keep in mind the Pista production time is identical, but factory output is 50% higher now than it was back then, with the same number of car models in production, with some Portofino production being shifted to the V12 assembly line as it had plenty of reserve capacity, which wasn't the case during the 458 years.

During 458S/SA, you also had FF, California and F12
During Pista, you have Lusso, Portofino and 812

Take a peek at the secondary market, plenty available. A while back TTforcefed mentioned Ferrari dealers weren't cutting checks for Pistas, I thought he was nuts. Turns out he was right all along.

End result, Pista will still do fine compared to standard 488.

 

There is always the exception that confirms the rule ... I don’t know which kind of consumer you are and what are your engagement with Ferrari ... but probably you are such a good customer for them ( even potentially ).
There is also to say that when ferrari communicated that the spider would not be numbered , it is possible that , a customer decided not to buy it anymore.......... anyway the game to buy a lusso was quite common for have a pista coupe’ but not for a spider at all. I know that very famous people in Europe ask for have it and they haven’t receive any kind of allocation.