458 - Windshield cracks | FerrariChat

458 Windshield cracks

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by CrapsLuckyDice, Dec 25, 2019.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. CrapsLuckyDice

    CrapsLuckyDice Karting

    Apr 28, 2019
    61
    NJ, USA
    Full Name:
    Dave
    Some jerk hit my windshield in two separate spots causing huge cracks. Now I have to replace my windshield. I have a 2013 458 Spider so I'm curious on a couple of different things:

    1. Does it really matter to get an OEM vs aftermarket? The price difference is huge but I'll go with what makes sense of course.

    2. What about getting a used OEM vs new OEM?

    3. Does this hurt the resale a lot? I mean yes if I have Ferrari install it they will show it as part of their service records OR I can take it to someone I know who specializes in exotics.

    4. Does anyone here have or can get a windshield asap?

    Thanks,
    D
     
  2. Alexcle

    Alexcle Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 2, 2018
    151
    Full Name:
    Alex D
    Sorry to hear that. I wonder if it will show up on carfax and impact value if you go to dealer oem vs independent shop replacement oem
     
  3. energy88

    energy88 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 21, 2012
    27,065
    West of Fredericksburg, VA
    Full Name:
    John
    My impression of CarFax is that any OEM dealer selling a car new or used will report it. Dealers seem to have an unwritten pact between themselves that reporting benefits the whole group some day off in the future when the car is appraised or traded in to one of them, regardless of the brand.
     
  4. RoyalPink

    RoyalPink Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed Silver Subscribed

    Mar 18, 2019
    1,144
    Southern Utah
    Full Name:
    John D.
    Don't go to the dealer. All they will do is call someone in to do it anyways. It's not like they have a certified glass installer sitting around. They farm it out. You should be able to locate a high end installer/glass shop to do it properly.
     
    MalibuGuy, Vegas CS and docf like this.
  5. PTG1

    PTG1 Formula Junior

    Oct 7, 2017
    783
    UK
    Full Name:
    Pete
    I had 2 replaced on windscreen insurance, don't you have that? In UK the excess is only £100 and policy £70 per year

    Sent from my CLT-L09 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
  6. buddyg

    buddyg F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Sep 20, 2004
    5,452
    West Michigan
    Full Name:
    Buddy
    What do you mean some jerk hit your windshield? Like deliberately with a bat or something? If that’s the case I would not be able to post because I would probably be in jail for knocking the SOB out!
     
    Bandit23 and rob5819 like this.
  7. BruceC

    BruceC Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 26, 2018
    249
    Tucson, AZ
    I recently replaced the windshield on my F430 Spider via Liberty Mutual Insurance - a half year plus odyssey, but mostly due to difficulties working with my insurance co on a car they were simply not well equipped to service. Of course, they would only cover the aftermarket windshield, so I started down that path with some reservations. Had to chase down the parts & finance the glass it out of pocket for reimbursement after the fact.

    Day of installation, the glass repair shop noticed the aftermarket glass did not have the embedded antenna wire before they started, so I had to start the process all over again. Finally, got the OEM windshield and installation at a local Safelite shop. I was in the shop with them during the entire installation and can't say enough about the care and attention to detail, however, some of their techs did come from other Safelite locations where they felt the skill levels were not on par. I completely agree with the comment about not going to a dealer - they're simply going to call in a glass specialist to do the work and charge you a premium.

    No impact on Carfax record - I made sure of that before I started.

    One concern I had with aftermarket glass from previous experience with another car was the potential for different tint shades than OEM glass. The aftermarket windshield was still at the Safelite shop when I finally had my OEM glass installed and while the tint did appear similar, it had a blue sunshade band at the top that would have looked awful with my car. And of course, the Ferrari logo is absent on the aftermarket glass - minor detail, but another demerit in the overall scheme of things.
     
    whatheheck likes this.
  8. PTG1

    PTG1 Formula Junior

    Oct 7, 2017
    783
    UK
    Full Name:
    Pete
    In UK its oem only and they paid out the main dealer to strip the dash and put it back after the fit. I insure by the UK ferrari owners club so it's chubb
    Sent from my CLT-L09 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
  9. GSF355

    GSF355 Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 21, 2013
    52
    Brisbane
    In my experience with other makes of car, the "aftermarket" glass can be thinner and seems to chip more readily. Also the seal around the screen should be replaced with a genuine one rather than a generic aftermarket one which can be not quite right profile and so can potentially let water in (happened to me with a car years ago). I've also seen problems with rain sensors not working correctly with thinner aftermarket glass. As someone else here mentioned, the aftermarket glass won't have the Ferrari logo on it which could go against the car in concourse judging... I'd go OEM without hesitation, and I'd be hitting up my insurance co for the full cost too.
     
  10. Solid State

    Solid State F1 Veteran
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 4, 2014
    9,638
    Full Name:
    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    I wonder if you guys that go with less than new OEM spec parts or have other work done and make sure its not reported appreciate the same courtesy when you purchase a car with hidden issues. If it happened then it happened and it should be reported. These cars are not cheap to own so either do it right or stay out of the market. Its just basic honesty and fairness to the next owner IMO.
     
  11. RoyalPink

    RoyalPink Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed Silver Subscribed

    Mar 18, 2019
    1,144
    Southern Utah
    Full Name:
    John D.
    I would do an OEM windshield replaced by a competent glass shop. Versus having a dealer farm it out and have it as a potential cloud on the carfax. I would also disclose it to the next buyer as well. I didn't get the feeling posters were implying to try and hide anything.
     
  12. CrapsLuckyDice

    CrapsLuckyDice Karting

    Apr 28, 2019
    61
    NJ, USA
    Full Name:
    Dave
    Thanks for all the replies so far. No, I'm not trying to hide anything otherwise I wouldn't have posted here to start. I'm more interested in understanding what are my choices and then to pursue as needed.

    How long will it take to get an OEM windshield? See I'm in a conundrum. I have a mandatory service coming due in Dec/Jan. However, I'd like to have an exotic specialist fix my car using an OEM windshield. However, several independent service centers had said it would take quite a bit of time to source one, and some even want to contact Ferrari to get the glass directly from them. That being said, I can't miss my service but I'm loathe to have to pay 2x just to have Ferrari outsource labor to install an OEM windshield. Plus, in my experiences with McLaren and Maserati, the dealerships all take a long time to get anything fixed right. Thus, I kind of don't want to bring it to the dealership only to have them sit and wait 2-3months to source a windshield, essentially farm out the labor, and then charge me 2x for it.

    Does anyone know where to get an OEM windshield either new OR used? I'm willing to pay for it just to get it installed at someone of my choosing. Then I'd have my car brought in for service at the normal Ferrari dealership. Again, thanks for all the help on this topic and hope everyone is having a Merry Christmas!

    Dave
     
  13. Solid State

    Solid State F1 Veteran
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 4, 2014
    9,638
    Full Name:
    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    The OP was just asking for advice and not trying to hide anything IMO. Looks as though just wanted to know how it works and looking for advice and did not even mention Carfax. However, advice to have an independent do the work so as not to have it reported is bad juju. Just report it on your insurance and have the dealer replace it with OEM. It will be in the record but who cares because a Ferrari installed new windshield should look excellent and carry a factory warranty. If done properly it will also look better than any other 2013 458 windshield.
     
  14. RoyalPink

    RoyalPink Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed Silver Subscribed

    Mar 18, 2019
    1,144
    Southern Utah
    Full Name:
    John D.
    Sound advice.
     
  15. BruceC

    BruceC Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 26, 2018
    249
    Tucson, AZ
    Advice to have an independent do the work had nothing to do with whether or not it would be reported on Carfax. It was merely to suggest you would be overcharged by having a dealer do the work. Please don't read alternate meanings in the post. Carfax accident reports send alarm signals that often don't tell the whole story. I'd have no problem telling someone I had an aftermarket windshield if that's the repair that was mandated by insurance and it didn't affect the appearance or function of the car.
     
  16. BruceC

    BruceC Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 26, 2018
    249
    Tucson, AZ
    Got my OEM F430 windshield from Ted Rutlands > https://trutlands.com/ When I reported back to them that the aftermarket windshield didn't have the antenna wire, they were very responsive and express shipped the OEM windshield from their facility in the U.K. directly to the shop that was doing the work. Rutlands accepted the responsibility for the error and didn't bill me the difference for the OEM windshield until it was installed and the aftermarket glass had been returned.
     
    whatheheck likes this.
  17. up4speed

    up4speed F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Feb 16, 2012
    3,543
    Long Island, NY
    Full Name:
    Chris
    I had my windshield replaced at the dealer. They have an in house tech that specializes in windshields. They ordered the part, and it only took a few days to come in. It was paid for by my insurance. It was over $7,000!!!
     
  18. CrapsLuckyDice

    CrapsLuckyDice Karting

    Apr 28, 2019
    61
    NJ, USA
    Full Name:
    Dave
    Ok, thank you all.

    I will have everything reported regardless to who I go to. Also, I always keep service records and give them to whomever wants to buy my car, including if I trade-in to a dealership. Therefore, this will be included as part of the package when I finally go to sell my car (though it will be a while from now!).

    Edit: Btw, does car bra on a windshield protect against these types of things? I remember talking to someone who said I should definitely do it as any sort of stone chip or intentional hit can be protected.
     
  19. versamil

    versamil Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 28, 2013
    1,158
    Gaston, Oregon
    Full Name:
    Brian Healy
    I had my windshield replaced in my 2013 458 Spider, two years ago. I wouldn't dream of getting an aftermarket windshield for a 458. Two years ago the price for the windshield with the heat shield glass was $2800. I had the work done at the Ferrari dealer. I'm sure they brought in an independent glass person, but the cost of $350.00 for labor, I thought was very reasonable.

    Buying a used windshield can't be THAT much cheaper than a new one. If you're a wrecking yard buying these cars, you're NOT going to remove a windshield and sell it for a few hundred dollars. It's worth at LEAST fifty percent of new. Having a used windshield installed, with the small micro chips that are inevitably in the glass, just seems like false economy. Ferrparts in Sacramento California HAD these in stock two years ago, selling new Ferrari windshields.They also sold aftermarket. If you're set on going this route, I'd give them a call. Look at your windshield carefully, it has a Ferrari logo in the glass. If your new windshield does not have this, then to the trained eye, your windshield is NOT an original part.
     
    whatheheck likes this.
  20. CrapsLuckyDice

    CrapsLuckyDice Karting

    Apr 28, 2019
    61
    NJ, USA
    Full Name:
    Dave
    I'm definitely not on going aftermarket after reading all this. I will end up going OEM. And yes, I noticed the Ferrari logo in the glass. I am also getting it new and not used.

    Thanks again.
     
    Melvok and PTG1 like this.
  21. PTG1

    PTG1 Formula Junior

    Oct 7, 2017
    783
    UK
    Full Name:
    Pete
    A windscreen replacement is not negative in any way, as sated it's positive as new screen looks great
    Sent from my CLT-L09 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
    CrapsLuckyDice likes this.
  22. john Owen

    john Owen Formula Junior

    Dec 27, 2018
    444
    Full Name:
    John Owen
    I'm in the UK and own a 458 and it has the Ferrari OEM windscreen with the Ferrari emblem etched into it..If it got broken and i had to choose between driving it for 6 months without a windscreen or a cheap aftermarket screen i'd choose the alfresco option every time..Only replace it with a new Ferrari OEM and ignore the extra cost IMO.
     
    sampelligrino likes this.
  23. versamil

    versamil Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 28, 2013
    1,158
    Gaston, Oregon
    Full Name:
    Brian Healy
    Funny you mention you'd drive your car for six months maybe waiting for a windshield. I did exactly that. I received my CRACK in September, and just figured WHY BOTHER to get it changed at the beginning of winter. I know it's slightly uncool to have such a great looking car with a cracked windshield, but it actually was WAY less stressful then putting in a new windshield right away. Get another rock chip- so what! I had it installed with my spring service. Now every time a dump truck is coming from the opposite direction, I worry, and move as far right as possible. I had my windshield cracked from a rock thrown from a dump truck going in the opposite direction. Dump truck going 55 and I was going 55- the rock hit me going 110 miles per hour. LUCKY it was right next to the pillar, or it should have gone right through the glass. But the crack within a day was right in front of the drivers side.

    I agree with the last post- put in an OEM glass. Not wanting to run this into the ground.
     
  24. Ianjoub

    Ianjoub Formula Junior

    Dec 22, 2019
    901
    Homosassa, FL USA
    Full Name:
    Ian Joubert
    Must be nice...

    Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  25. versamil

    versamil Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 28, 2013
    1,158
    Gaston, Oregon
    Full Name:
    Brian Healy
    Looks like you had some punk antifa jerk, stomp on your windshield! So the Ferrari dealership doesn't even know how to spell windshield and they charged TWELVE point eight hours to replace it? Seems pretty steep.
     

Share This Page