2020 Barcelona Testng: Feb. 19th - 21st & Feb. 26th - 28th

We haven't heard from you for a while ...

Welcome back !

 

The pure hatred is literally oozing out of their posts. And the season hasn't even started yet. Unreal.

 

So, how much money do you guys think mercedes gave the FIA to alow das? or do you believe it was just a threat to leave?

 

Neither, but i do beleive there are a lot of disgruntled ex SF personnel in the FIA who have a axe to grind. I find it rather strange that the system was effectively banned when the 2021 regulations were published in October last year knowing full well the system was "not in the spirit of the rules" Hence the ban!

Mercedes have played a better hand so it seems but when others try it on they are investigated and told to stop.

 

It's a Tifosi forum

 

..But some people never learn...

 

so does this Mercedes manufacturer team have a chance this year against the "garagistes" or is the board gonna shut em down for lack of results?

 

Geneva Auto show just cancelled, let's get this Corona virus thing handled so we don't lose the F1 season!

 

Sky just mentioned a "settlement" between Ferrari and the FIA. with the suggestion that Ferrari were doing something with their PU last season that the FIA weren't totally happy about...

https://www.fia.com/news/fia-concludes-analysis-scuderia-ferrari-formula-1-power-unit

 

FIA statement: "The FIA announces that, after thorough technical investigations, it has concluded its analysis of the operation of the Scuderia Ferrari Formula 1 Power Unit and reached a settlement with the team. The specifics of the agreement will remain between the parties."

"FIA and Ferrari have agreed to a number of technical commitments that will improve monitoring of all Formula 1 Power Units for forthcoming seasons as well as assist FIA in other regulatory duties in F1 and its research activities on carbon emissions and sustainable fuel"

 

I’m willing to bet that Ferrari found a clever way of circumventing the rules that was probably legal but may have been in that gray area regarding the spirit of the rules, and because of the numerous complaints from the competitors Ferrari was told to stop using whatever loophole they found.

 

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My FIA interpretation - In other words - they were stopped using a system on their car that the FIA didn't like (no technical ruling given as far as I know), told to remove it, effectively scuppered any challenge to the 2019 WCC & WDC titles........then told SF, sorry can we talk about it now and possibly allow it but you must paint it a different colour so it looks like we won. You cannot make this up can you?

sorry didn't see post 561 but totally on the same page as you

 

Hope as part of the settlement Ferrari asked to keep using their system this year and get it banned only from next...

 

The spirit of the rules for engines is not the same than for steering wheels, I suppose.

Anyway, that "settlement" looks quite ambiguous. It has some effect for the 2020 engine or they wouldn´t care to announce it as nobody gives a rat ass about the 2019 season.

 

If we knew what the technical infringement was we could look at the 2021 regulations it's a dead cert its been banned!

 

Finding "loopholes" in F1 has been the history of F1.

If you ain't finding them, you're not trying hard enough.

This "settlement" is not a big deal.

 

Finding the next advantage is part of the game BUT

Respectively disagree, it is a big deal, pulling the rug from under your feet and then saying sorry I made a mistake is hardly sporting!

Consistent fair decisions are!

Best Regards

tony

 

Seems fuel flow related -
The specifics of the agreement will remain between the parties.

"The FIA and Scuderia Ferrari have agreed to a number of technical commitments that will improve the monitoring of all Formula 1 power units for forthcoming championship seasons as well as assist the FIA in other regulatory duties in Formula 1 and in its research activities on carbon emissions and sustainable fuels."

The wording of the statement is intriguing, as the FIA does not state that it found the power unit to have complied fully with the regulations.

The existence of a private settlement, and an agreement to help monitoring of power units going forward, suggests there may have been a trade off in terms of not taking the issue further.

Last year, a number of technical directives were issued to clarify what teams were and were not allowed to do with their sensors.

The issuing of these coincided with a period in the championship when Ferrari's straightline speed advantage was reduced.

In a bid to prevent teams from circumventing the rules, the FIA has introduced a second fuel-flow sensor for 2020.

 

I wont hold my breath for a technical directive / clarification on its definition for steering for 2020.

 

Exactly.

 

Lol the Brit F1 media will no doubt be frothing at the mouth as a result of this but if Merc had done it it would be "hats off to those chaps, always pushing the limit!"

 

Thanks Will.

I did a quick scan read, I say quick because the usual suspects made that job a lot easier, with more of the same.

I'll see how it goes, its a bit like this bloody coronavirus, I reckon that is going to have a good job in spoiling things.

In all seriousness I do not know how the teams are going to cope with this epidemic, it must be a logistical nightmare.

 

I'd have never have guessed

 

Absolutely this!