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Need pricing opinion !

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by gsxr_fvr, Feb 22, 2020.

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  1. gsxr_fvr

    gsxr_fvr Karting

    Nov 24, 2016
    65
    Toronto, Ontario
    Hey Guy's
    I need to decide between the two cars listed below. Just wondering which one majority will go with.

    1st: 2011 Red on Black (High mileage high options) - I was amazed how well it drove despite mileage
    26000 miles
    Carbon buckets
    Carbon steering led
    Carbon everywhere
    Well maintained and drives amazing

    2nd: 2012 Red on Black (Low mileage low options)
    14000 miles
    No options


    2012 low options low mileage is $20000 more

    Thanks
     
  2. OSUferrari

    OSUferrari Formula Junior
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    Dec 13, 2015
    611
    Denver CO
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    John
    Have both been serviced by dealers each and every year? Service record and how well they have been taken care of would be the difference maker for me......(not milege).
    My first 458 was not taken care of (lots of issues), traded it in for one that had all its records and have never had an issue since.
     
  3. DefunctNeurons

    DefunctNeurons Formula Junior

    May 15, 2018
    412
    Alpharetta, GA
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    Trevor
    If you plan on keeping the car and actually driving it, buy the 2011. A no-option car seems silly considering the price. And 26k miles is really nothing in terms of life of the car. But the higher miles will reduce the resale value and pool of potential buyers. So many people seem to buy these cars to look pretty now and sell easily to the next owner. If you have the money just buy what you want and enjoy it!! Ask me how I know!


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  4. gsxr_fvr

    gsxr_fvr Karting

    Nov 24, 2016
    65
    Toronto, Ontario
    Thanks guys.
    Yes stack of service history will definitely help. I’ll need to check that.
     
  5. Ianjoub

    Ianjoub Formula Junior

    Dec 22, 2019
    901
    Homosassa, FL USA
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    Ian Joubert
    I wouldn't worry about mileage until it hits 70k or more...
     
  6. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    Jul 25, 2008
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    ONLY the 2012 !!!!

    First years (2010-1011) have far more technical problems !
     
  7. ncjetskier

    ncjetskier Formula 3

    Jul 7, 2012
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    Can you clarify what the problems are on the pre 2012 458? When I did my research the only difference I found was that they changed the exhaust mapping to eliminate the popping during deceleration - which some people did not like the re-mapping of the exhaust.

    Personally, I like well optioned cars. I can tell a 458 that was purchased "bare bones". I went with a 2011 vs a 2013. The 2011 only had 7500 miles, had race seats, carbon fiber package, PPF, and custom rims. Side by side, it was a much better looking car.
     
  8. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    the 2011 all day.
     
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  9. 458LOVE

    458LOVE Rookie

    Jan 29, 2020
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    How can you tell a 458 was purchased bare bones? What are the obvious tell tale signs? I saw one that was bare bones and had everything added after.... Only main sign was the led steering wheel stitching wasn't same color as the seat stitching.
     
  10. ncjetskier

    ncjetskier Formula 3

    Jul 7, 2012
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    Added afterwards or purchased with options - does not really matter. When looking at used 458s I could tell that the owner / owners did not do anything to make the car special (stock rims, no factory options, no PPF, no carbon fiber etc). Nothing wrong with these cars - just not what I would want. When I purchased my 458 (third owner) it came with CF, PPF, racing seats, the lights on the steering wheel, and custom wheels. These items do not do a thing for performance but it does make the car look better (my opinion).

    When looking to trade my 430 for a 458, I was not specifically looking for any of these options - I was looking for a good quality used car, a place willing to make a fair deal and a good looking car. I was in the same postion as the person who posted this thread. A 2013 with 15K miles no options or a 2011 with 7K miles with the options listed above. I chose the 2011 and saved $11K. Just a nicer car.
     
  11. DXB599

    DXB599 Formula Junior
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    Seems the 2011 is a no-brainer.
     
  12. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

    Jan 21, 2017
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    In this situation I'd agree - it's a benefit to have a newer car, but if it comes at a significantly higher price with significantly less equipment it does not appear as a good deal.
    Also 26,000 miles is not awfully high for a 9 years old car; as mentioned maintenance record is paramount but it's also true for a 14000 miles car.
     
  13. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian F1 World Champ
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    Oct 29, 2010
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    that is one strange sentence...
     
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  14. Baitschev

    Baitschev Formula Junior

    Jan 8, 2017
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    Vienna
    2011 If you buy Carbonparts later it cost More.and its Not OEM
     
  15. 458LOVE

    458LOVE Rookie

    Jan 29, 2020
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    Please give us the actual asking prices on both cars.
     
  16. Cigarzman

    Cigarzman F1 Veteran
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    OMG , all those miles . I hope it wasn’t driven in the rain too.
     
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  17. pizzadude

    pizzadude Formula 3

    Feb 20, 2001
    1,267
    Indianapolis, IN
    To me 26,000 miles doesn’t seem high at all. I would say that’s a good number actually. You aren’t paying a premium for super low miles but still low enough that you can put a few 1000 on it a year and still be good.
     
  18. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    Miles cannot realy be the issue imo, are we drivers or polishers ?

    As of the 2012, the gearbox was enhanced because of a lot of (electrical) faults like in the California.

    Knowing this would let me decide for the 2012.
     
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  19. gsxr_fvr

    gsxr_fvr Karting

    Nov 24, 2016
    65
    Toronto, Ontario
    Thanks for feedback everyone. I've passed on that deal. That one just wasn't meant to be
    But i've read the 2012+ being more reliable cars quite a few times on this forum now. Might be some merit to that.
     
  20. kiryu

    kiryu Formula Junior

    Mar 28, 2016
    407
    Los Angeles
    I wouldnt want a bare bone car, even a 2015 with 3k miles. You have to see it feel it everytime u drive it, and all it reminds you is what you could have gotten. It's a lot of time and money adding everything after the fact: carbon options, PPF, paint correction etc. and eats away the fun. And low mileage cars tend to depreciate more as you drive it vs something with higher miles that's already depreciated. It's so not worth the premium. It's a ferrari, get what you want. The 458 is one of the most reliable models to put miles on
     

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