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  1. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    I can understand; I worked in support of another team on a business there a few years ago; indeed a contract means jack**** to them, that is something I can confirm. Add to this that in business, exiting the country is even more difficult than entering it (which in by no means easy).
    They say that the new cases they have now are mainly imported, i.e, Chinese people coming back to China after a trip abroad and having caught the Covid-19 in Italy or elsewhere in Europe...

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  2. nerofer

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    Hang on Pedro, this thing will not silence you! It is not as bad as the spanish flu...
    (situation not looking very good over here either...not really bad for the time being, but...)

    Rgds
     
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  3. SimCity3

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    Yes, which in turn means many other MP's have now been exposed to the virus.
     
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  4. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    With a bit of luck they will close the House of Commons,although it is good for a laugh now and then
     
  5. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single-seaters/f1/mph-is-f1-irresponsible-to-race-amid-coronavirus-outbreak

    MPH: Is F1 irresponsible to race amid coronavirus outbreak?
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    Grand Prix racing could have been designed to spread a virus worldwide, says Mark Hughes. So should Formula 1 postpone more races until coronavirus subsides?
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    I arrived in Melbourne early, just because I could. The sunshine contrasts so vigorously to months of rainy British winter, the buzz of the place a welcome respite from the dark atmosphere created by the ominous creep of COVID-19.

    But the virus has been the dominant subject of F1 regardless, even shading the developing narrative of the FIA’s investigation of Ferrari’s 2019 fuel flow. Would Scuderia Ferrari even be allowed to leave northern Italy to face the further scrutiny of rivals and media in Melbourne? Because if the Italian health authorities forbade it as they tried to contain the virus’ spread, the opening race of the season would not go ahead. Ross Brawn and F1 had been quite specific about that: running the race with one team locked in isolation at base would not be fair.

    “If you were some evil mastermind trying to devise something to spread a virus globally, it could look a lot like F1”

    Just as that was being pondered, Bahrain International Circuit announced its grand prix – the week after Melbourne – would be for participants and media only. No spectators allowed. “Convening a major sporting event, which is open to the public and allows thousands of international travellers and local fans to interact in close proximity, would not be the right thing to do at the present time,” its statement read. One could use those exact words to have a pretty firm dig at F1’s apparent determination to keep going regardless. The Chinese government effectively caused that race to be postponed, but F1 itself seems determined to forge ahead until being told to stop.

    Much as we as fans hate to see races postponed or cancelled, is ‘plough on regardless’ the responsible thing to be doing? If you were some evil mastermind trying to devise something to spread a virus globally as effectively as possible, it could look a lot like F1. We have a highly-contagious virus that takes a couple of weeks to incubate, a travelling circus of 4,000 people (plus thousands of travelling fans) staying in one place for around one week, who are then set free to disperse all over the globe and congregate again somewhere else a week or two later to do it all again.

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    The complications, of course, are to do with money. Around half the sport’s income is derived from the massive race fees paid by the promoters of each race. If the promoter does the responsible thing and cancels, it cannot make an insurance claim on the lost revenue. If F1 itself cancels, it’s in the same predicament. But if the relevant government forbids the event, it’s much easier for everyone.

    Meantime Vietnam – a privately-funded new event in Hanoi in which multiple millions have been invested – is at the time of writing still set to be the third race of the season. Vietnam, which shares a border with China, the home of the virus, has been particularly zealous in its precautions: widespread school closures, putting 10,000 people in isolation, regular emergency drills. But now 13 people who’d been on board a Vietnam Airlines London-Hanoi flight on March 2 are reported to have the virus. This has triggered a lock down in a neighbourhood adjacent to Hanoi. Still, F1 and the promoters insist, the race will happen.

    No matter how many ‘we are closely monitoring the situation’ and ‘the safety of the people is paramount’ statements F1 makes, it’s not the body which can objectively make the calls. It’s financially locked into pressing on and needs to be released from that burden. Longer term, F1 cannot risk being seen as the entity which irresponsibly turned the epidemic into a pandemic, potentially killing millions. Until this virus is under control, we may all have to accept that grands prix are a luxury we have to postpone.
     
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  6. Nembo1777

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    Unfortunately that article makes sense: if we suspend our passion for a moment and think from the devil's advocate perspective F1 does seem like an ideal spreader.

    Meanwhile in Monaco things are starting to turn sour: they just delayed the most important social event of the year, the Rose ball which was scheduled for in two weeks and if they are cancelling delaying forums (see link) then what of two events that brings crowds all over the principality, the Monaco GP but also the Historic GP two weeks before in early May a wonderful event held only on even years which I always attend?

    https://monacolife.net/more-events-fall-victim-to-covid-19/
     
  7. nerofer

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    Mark Hughes is a good journalist, not focused on immediate matters and facts, but able to put things in perspective. I think he has a valid point.

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  8. william

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    I agree, but it's the same for any sporting, cultural, religious, economical or political event that transports thousands of people to different locations on a regular basis.
    It doesn't even have to be in different countries. Tourism could even be the largest culprit in spreading diseases around the world.
     
  9. Flavio_C

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    I agree with you that we can't trust China, but on South Korea on the other hand the numbers look promising.
     
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  10. Flavio_C

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    I hope that after all this that countries start at least to think about being less dependent on China. I was watching CNBC TV and one pandemic specialist said that antibiotics available in the US have at least 90% of it's composition made of Chinese sources! And that the USA doesn't have reserves in case of a war!
     
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  11. Sig. Roma

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    It’s called political correctness. Time to get out of China.


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  12. tifosi12

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    I find the Australian GP organizers irresponsible for continuing with this race. And I don't understand the fans voluntarily attending the race. Australia should follow Bahrain's example and ban it from spectators.

    I don't understand Australia's government allowing this to continue.
     
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  13. tifosi12

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    Thanks guys for liking my post. I do feel strongly about this. Look at all the European govts who prohibit events with 1000+ people. Or for that matter all the events in the US which self cancel.

    It's pure arrogance and greed by the race organizers. Incomprehensible. Expect the Australian/Melbourne number of infected people to jump in a couple of weeks.

    Hopefully I'm dead wrong on all this.
     
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  14. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Oz Greed.Simple as that.
     
  15. tifosi12

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    I'm also puzzled that the F1 press is not calling it out. Cowards. Probably worried about their press passes. But they should have the common sense to openly criticize the organizers and F1 owners.

    At least Roger Benoit from Swiss Blick is calling it out. At least to some degree.

    PS: 3 F1 team members have been sent back to their hotels in Melbourne to self quarantine as they showed symptoms. The F1 drivers are being "isolated" from everybody.
     
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  16. Flavio_C

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    Seems like insurance for such events doesn't cover epidemics... Liberty will nee to share its profits with the organizers.
     
  17. nerofer

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    Andreas,

    I wonder if we will have a "season" at all? Seeing this from here in Europe, I think if we could have five or six races at all, then we should declare ourselves "satisfied"; let's face it, this season is already lost, that is the truth.

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  18. freshmeat

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    Mark Hughes is captain obvious; hasn’t said anything not already talked about on these boards days, weeks ago.
     
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  19. Sig. Roma

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    From Safari Club International Italian Chapter in Biella Italy: the safety and well-being of everyone who travel with us is always our priority. We are actively monitoring the coronavirus (COVID-19) situation and are adjusting to new precautions: tours that had to take place in Italy before mid April were cancelled or rescheduled while, subject to today’s information, there is no evidence that CoronaVirus should affect tours in May, June and the following months.

    What the situation in Italy looks like? In all the country is applied a high limitation to traveling (it’s not possible to move outside the home town unless for working, family or health reasons). Limits apply to all the places and situations where people might group together: schools, museums, restaurants, gym… are subject to limitations or closed. Certain areas of the country (the “Red Zones”: Milan, Venice and other villages in northern Italy) are subject to quarantine.

    These decisions were taken to slow down contagion in order to limit peaks in the demand for hospitalization that would put the Health System under (maybe unsustainable) pressure. Actual limitations are considered to last until April 3rd. Sadly, approximately 650 people died, in part because of CoronaVirus and others, the vast majority, for other reasons but found positive to COVID-19. The average age was 81 years old and 92% - 95% were already at risk with, at least, one serious previous illness unrelated to CoronaVirus.

    Is it safe to travel in Italy? What is Italian Safari doing? We are open and running, all our hunting areas are out of the Red Zone. Safety of our guests is the most important thing for us, we are constantly monitoring the situation and following the instructions of the Italian Minister, the Istituto Superiore di Sanità and the World Health Organization: there is actually no evidence that tours starting from May will be affected. We apply an even stricter approach: not only traveling with us has to be safe, we want it to be a lifetime experience! Be ensure that when we welcome you Italy, we will grant you a level of experience in line with the Italian Safari’s standards.
     
  20. tifosi12

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    My hope is that this will taper out by May. It is basically gone in China and the rest of the world is like 3 months behind them. So I do think/hope that we will have a decent enough season at some point.

    That said, think back of the first decade of the F1 championship: They had like 6 to 8 races tops in a regular season.
     
  21. TifosiUSA

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    just going to be a mercedes walkover anyway
     
  22. Flavio_C

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    I don't think you need to cancel races, just have them with no public on the grandstands. Liberty pays the organizers the expenses, that should be much lower if you don't neede to handle the public.
     
  23. TheMayor

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    I have a different take

    To me, F1 would be the tiniest drop in the ocean of spreading it. Millions travel every day.

    But I feel that Italy is facing a national crisis at the moment. Many are suffering. Its probably not a great symbol for Ferrari to be out racing around the world when so many are being hurt back home and also stuck in their homes.
     
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  24. tifosi12

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    Interesting point. You could of course argue the other way around: Italians are stuck at home and have nothing to cheer about but there is their team bringing a bit of joy (unless Vettel wrecks it prematurely).

    Where IMHO things get dicey from an optics "that doesn't look so good" perspective is the travel ban: Why are the Italian teams (Ferrari, Torro Rosso and Haas) allowed to freely travel in and out of the country when everybody else is on lock down. In fact I could even imagine a scenario where the F1 teams from Italy will be stuck on the road and won't go home between Australia/Bahrain/Vietnam. We'll see.
     

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