Don't know if this has already been posted or not, but there are a couple of beautiful De Tomaso cars for sale on the Michael Sheehan website. A yellow/black 1972 Pantera with 3898 original miles on it for $79,500. http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/carintro.php?reqcardir=DT-PANT-3472 A black/black 1969 Mangusta with 1150 miles on it for $99,500. http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/carintro.php?reqcardir=DT-MAN-8MA674 I have no connection to these cars, the ad, or the dealer/broker. Here are a few pics of the cars. They look like incredible cars. I've always liked the looks of the Pantera from the early 1970's. . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
i nearly bought the pantera from gary bobileiff about 6 yrs ago. he was at $37k and my offer was firm @ $35k. it was then a very, very nice panther!!!!! i should have bought it then. as a note, that was the second car that i nearly bought from gary where were virtually pennies apart and i held firm...clearly wrong on my part each time!!! pcb
Why????? Why does this happen when I'm not in a position to buy???? WHY??? Really F@cking pissed right now.
If I'm not mistaken that is a famous Goose, provenance etc....nicest on the planet. If I cut my legs off I could sit in one.
I am with u all theblack goose is SICK!!! 2nd nicest one onthe planet! The goose in my garage trumps it If I was abuyer of ANY exotic car in the $100k range I would jump all over that stunning black goose!
The sock Mangusta could be a rather evil handling car at the limit. Sports Car Graphic magazine did some analysis (the noted suspension engineer Paul Van Valkenburgh did the work) and found the stock Mangusta had a rear axle jacking issue and at high lateral accelerations it was dangerous. As delivered, the car both understeered and oversteered. They instrumented the control arms to figure out what was going on and used a pyrometer to set the camber angles. Part of the problem was attributed to alignment (the car was delivered with toe-out and too little camber) and also to a problem with the shocks pumping up until the extended suspension allowed the tire to tuck under like a swing axle Corvair. The article made mention of Koni working on a replacement shock. They also said Mark Donahue drove the car and pronounced the rear roll center too high. After the re-alignment and Goodyear Polyglas tires, it was apparently a completely different machine, increasing the skidpad g's from 0.71 as delivered to 0.92, the highest they had ever recorded at the time. More importantly, the said the car was very controllable and they could powerslide it will and not have the rear end come around. Here is a link to the SCG article... http://www.mangustainternational.com/history_detail.php?id=60 Still a pretty car in black...
Both of the engines look impressive. Although the Mangusta engine looks like it is a tight fit back there. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
would one of you experts identify the tires on the goose for me and please in detail! size, speed rating, age, AVAILABILITY? thank you!
I'm no expert, but some of the info is visible on the close-up pic of the tire & wheel. It says: Dunlop 5-50 M-15 I think those are vintage Dunlop racing tires like the GT40's ran with. Here is an online ad I found for what I think is the same tire: http://www.longstonetires.com/productPage.php?productID=1501&categoryFilename=dunlop_racing.php Good luck. . Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think I remember that Pantera. It was yellow, all original car with just a few spots repainted, if I recall correctly. Has it been 6 years already? Jeeez.
The black Mangusta is in the International Mangusta Registry website. Pictures of its restoration several years ago are here: http://www.mangustainternational.com/registry_detail.php?id=81 That has to be one of the nicest Mangustas around. . Image Unavailable, Please Login
It is very nice looking, but what I'm not understanding is they mention it used to be yellow, and the qv500 website says it was orange before that....did someone pay a fortune to restore it and paint it a non-original color? Yes, I know it is the owner's perogative to paint it whatever color he wants, etc., but it was otherwise restored to pretty close to stock appearance. Is the steering wheel wrong (no wood)? No tool kit? In 2007 $14K was spent on paint and body damage to the rear....was it in some major collision?
nice investigative work, probably some of the reasons everyone isn't jumping all over it...regarding the steering wheel, it appears they've covered the wood with leather (Mangusta wheels are one of the best ever), seems a shame to cover it? tool kit = VERY rare shame it has collision history, it sure looks nice repaired and repainted black
I like the Mangusta and finally saw one in the flesh when I lived in Southern California. Of course I saw more than one, but that was the first time. I still would have a Pantera over one any day of the week, however I have a lot of respect for the Mangusta and that black one is drop dead gorgeous.
So, this is many years late, but I owned both the Pantera and Mangusta referred to in this thread. I purchased the Mangusta in "94. At that time it was yellow with a black and yellow striped interior. I took it to Bobileff for a complete restoration and he had found it to have been an Orange/Brown color originally. We spared no expense on the restoration, but I preferred black over the original color. We tried for years to find an original steering wheel, but never had any luck. The leather wheel is what was on it when I purchased it. The accident damage was nothing significant. The car was parked at a hotel in Monterey as we were showing both the Pantera and Mangusta that year. It popped out of gear and rolled backward into the corner of the building and caused the right rear of the engine cover to bend a bit. It pushed ever so slightly into the roof, so not only did the engine cover have to be repaired, the roof did too. It wasn't even noticeable, but Bobileff spotted it when we took the car back to him for repair. That small bit of damage required lots of repaint on the roof and adjoining parts, so unfortunately it added up to a lot. No frame damage, no broken glass. It's just a soft body! I still have the tool kit in my garage... The entire restoration project took 11 years, by the way. Completely ludicrous.
I'm sorry I just saw your question about the tool kit! You can text me if you're still interested at 936-537-0549. I also have a set of original Dunlop tires that would be great for show only. The beads on the rears are not all that great and would require tubes to hold air, but look amazing. The fronts are in excellent condition, just very, very old.
Nice to see this thread come to life. I parted with my goose 8 years ago now. REALLY miss that car, just so beautiful. Interesting I did source those Dunlop tires at Roger Krause for my car eventually. They came off the original wheels before the car went to Austria, and the tires went to Sacramento to velocetwo’s Bizzarini project. That black Mangusta wowowowowowow.
Wayne Carrini just ran an episode chronicalling the restoration of s Mangusta for the drummer of The Cars,
