Great new Mondial article

Very nice write up this week....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/magazine/mondial-the-forgotten-ferrari/

 

Nice positive article, the only thing I don’t agree with is:


“Prices are still reasonable, and the cars out there are almost always enthusiast-owned and as such, have been cared for without regard for expense.”

From what I’ve seen, 95% of cars available are ones that need extensive restoration/upgrades. The current cheaper prices are misleading. This will all change over the next 10 years as more of these cars are snapped up and restored.


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I agree. To find a well cared for and maintained one is harder than it looks.

 

The engine isn't in the "back", it's in the middle. This is a big deal.

 

I think that's likely correct. I know there's always discussion of what they cars might be worth in the future; all I know is the 83 QV that I recently picked up will likely cost me at least $5-$7k more than I anticipated. Which also seems to be the experience of many owners. LOL. I feel I got a decent buy, not a steal. Looking forward to it being ready to drive this Spring and enjoying it!

 

I agree with..."enthusiast owner, cared for without regard for expense" I am currently having the engine completely rebuilt which puts me totally upside down on the value of this car. I am this type of owner.

 

I love to see articles about Mondials, but at the end of the day, this particular article is nothing more than a puff piece with several inaccuracies in it. I'd honestly be surprised if the author has even seen one in person.

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2Cam inspired me to actually read the article.....I got to the picture of the black 3.2 and didn't make it any further. Beautiful! I am now in dreamland thinking about the next Ferrari.....why not get another Mondial I ask myself. Black coupe with red leather? I know all the in's and outs, all the potential issues. Sounds like a plan!

 

I remember one of those.


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I don’t care what they’re worth in the future or how much it costs me to maintain. This is the coolest car I have ever owned and at the present time I don’t see myself ever getting rid of it. It’s a true old school Ferrari.

 

I can, and do, work on my Mondial. Mondial owners can work on their cars. Owners of newer models mostly can’t. This fact will cause Mondial prices to increase. Well-sorted Mondials are underpriced now - but prices will catch up.


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In my case both are true. The car I bought needed a lot of love. However, I have put a ton of money into it and if I ever sell it, the new owner would be getting a fully sorted car plus ultra! But I prefer to keep it.

 

Black coupe. Red leather.
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And that’s exactly what I’m talking about. I bought one that needed lots of love as well. Mine is almost back to new condition. As more of us scoop these up and resto them, the prices won’t be at 30-40k anymore.


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Dave, is that your qv?

 

It is.

 

I always joke about having the most expensive Mondial in the world. I paid about 25k for the car. I've put more than that into restoring it.

 

Ditto. Car runs well too!


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If you enjoy it, it is worth every penny!

I don't know why people seem to fixate on price/value. It's worth what it is worth at any given time. If you like the car, you simply pay to play.

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Jerry

 

I always enjoy a nice "puff piece" about our Mondials. It makes me feel like we are ahead of the curve in appreciating what these cars are. But as was pointed out, some of the niggling inaccuracies - boot "between" the cabin and engine - does call into question whether the author has actually driven one. There is nothing about its road handling or ride in relation to the other v8 models of the era. The "longer" body was not just a benefit to put in a couple of almost rear seats. So the article is not really for the enthusiast. After all, this is really a sales site so they are trying to drive customers to cars of which they have quite a few mondi's listed.

Some of the details show that they did do some research and from that standpoint, I did learn a few things. Given the upside down shape of the world at the moment, I'm not feeling too good about our cars ever gaining in value economically. At the moment, classic cars have no value at all...you cant drive them and you cant eat them. Most of us will always end up seriously under water with expense to what we will be able to sell them for. But then, despite what I told my wife when I bought my Mondi, I did not buy it, nor do I keep it, for an investment. It is all about the driving and the feel and the sound and the subtlety of this car compared to all the other Fcars or exotics. We keep them and maintain them because we love the ability to get in and start them up and drive them and enjoy them, not be garage queens, or part of our estate portfolio..

We here on Fchat are definitely "enthusiasts". So I do feel we try and maintain them as required so would be a good source for the cars. However, we dont want to sell something we love and know. To paraphrase something from another context, my mondial will only be sold after they pry the keys from my cold, dead hands.

 

What is the mileage and reason for the rebuild. These are robust cars. I sold my 308 with 124000 miles and it was still running strong.

 

This is my second black Mondial coupe.
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