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  1. Horse

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    No, only AMG pack - Mrs H's car.
     
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  3. Steve355F1

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  8. Horse

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  9. moretti

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    Just what I was thinking :p

    One of them is recalcitrant and the other mad .... you pick which is which :D
     
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  10. IanB

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    Really Andrew, scary videos from the internet, quoting "scientists" ? Comparing our health system to cities where (democrat) politicians have underfunded public health for years while they changed the weather?

    You might want to do some research on the serious respiratory disease experts who are saying this is a beat up.
     
  11. Maranello550

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    100% Ian....The States was always going to be in big trouble because of exactly that....
     
  12. 575

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    This is becoming painful and I really hate to intervene because it really hurts . But.............

    What PP is saying is not that he has an issue with you using a % to define the number of dead but that the method of the calculation itself is flawed and that the 0.4% is meaningless because it is being calculated using an absolute figure ( number of deaths ) divided by an incorrect figure ( number of cases). Number of cases is incorrect because it only specifies the number of people who have tested positive and not ALL the people infected , and as such can not be used as a true representation. Where as if the number of deaths is divided by the number of resolved cases then this the correct figure . As both the numerator and denominator are absolute and verified numbers. Although this method may represent a high number at the moment it may reduce as we move through the cycle of the illness and more cases are resolved .
     
  13. Birel

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    I get what you say about lay commentators, its statistics that get my attention, what surely must be of concern is the infection rate? NYC has gone from 1 to 85,000 in a month.

    And I know what you can interpret from statistics, 2 days ago you were saying the US death rate is only 10/per mill, but now its 15/per mill, ergo a 50% increase, no matter, its 5,000 dead bodies. I think Fauci knows what he is talking about.

    All I'm saying is be dismissive at your own peril.
     
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  14. 575

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    The spike in NYC cases is attributable to the very slow testing regime. Now that testing has come on line all the cases are being revealed at once.
     
  15. Steve355F1

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    We know that is what he is saying (see my post from a night or two ago).
    But I don't agree that the 0.4% figure is worthless.

    Most importantly, it's the measurement that has been used from the start of this to indicate how severe the virus is.
    Therefore it is totally valid to use the same calculation to show where Oz sits in comparison to other places.

    The Ning-Nong's calculation would be relevant if that is the way the severity of this virus had been presented from the start.

    It isn't, so it isn't.
     
  16. 575

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    Agreed but comparing Sydney to NYC does not work either . Density , population etc.
    A rough guide at best
     
  17. greg246

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    Which respiratory experts exactly?

    It won’t take long for a tsunami to develop and ICU beds are filled, then watch the death rate skyrocket.
     
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    Have a look at these graphs


    https://grattan.edu.au/news/the-growth-in-covid-19-cases-in-australia-appears-to-have-slowed/

    ICU beds were expected to reach capacity mid April if we didn’t “flatten the curve”. This is not a joke, some of our greatest clinicians run our ICUs in this country and they have been preparing for this in earnest. A few weeks ago, my intel was the **** storm was going to hit Easter long weekend. All ICU staff had leave cancelled in preparation and this was well before elective surgery was cancelled by the govt. I cannot stress enough that ICU beds are a finite resource, once filled, good luck everyone
     
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  19. kerrari

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    Worldometer which is THE definitive site - no outside affiliations, they usually just track population and the like.
    Interestingly, when NY started to explode, these ‘current, closed, recovered, died’ statistics which are what really tell the story, disappeared from the US page.

    Overheard a discussion in the postoffice yesterday 2 nurses and also talking about other friend who are nurses, all taking leave / standing down so as not to be exposed to covid for the sake of their kids... Hard to argue against people trying to protect their own , but there isn’t any excess of nurses on the coast.
     
  20. kerrari

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    Yeah, that’s why I was surprised by the pic - none of my friends have problems (masks were an issue earlier on).
     
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    Not to worry..
    A few emergency plans are being rolled out now. I know as I’m involved in one and know of a few
    Don’t panic. :)
     
  23. kerrari

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    And when has ANY US government lifted a finger for the health system? They are ALL in the pockets of the lobbyists who don’t give a rat’s about real health outcomes. Everyone gets ripped off by the ‘health system’ in America - some get cash ripoff, some pay with their lives...
     
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  24. kerrari

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    Exactly - but the issue is the time and resources in getting ‘resolved’.
     
  25. kerrari

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    Testing wouldn’t have made the cases go away - they were always going to be a tsunami because of the exponential infections.
     

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