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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Ferraridoc, Mar 21, 2020.

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  1. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The private hospital where I practice has stopped elective surgery. Public patients (there is a major public hospital next door) will be admitted over the next week or so. Surgical theatres will convert into ICU as needed. We’ve already allocated one of our other clinics to act as a designated COVID-19 Imaging Centre
     
  2. kerrari

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    Can you please explain this to your boyfriend?
     
  3. greg246

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    I will in the shower tonight
     
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  4. Aircon

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    I haven't calculated anything

    Regardless, the figure I posted is a more accurate figure to reality than the 0.4% you and the fwit are using. I hope the figure I posted reduces as people recover.

    Is just maths.....so simple, actually, that I'm surprised you and pat don't understand it.
     
  5. kerrari

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    Keep a tight grip on the soap...
     
  6. Maranello550

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    Poor PP...:)
     
  7. 575

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    Correct . Testing would not have made the cases go away but it allows them to be counted.
    If the testing is conducted over a longer period of time the ultimate number may be the same but the curve is flatter and thus the growth in numbers not so exponential.
    To measure this accurately across different jurisdiction you must account for the different variable in order to get like for like numbers. Even deaths are not being counted in the same way. For example some countries such as Italy are not drawing the distinction between dieing with Covid-19 and dieing from Covid -19
     
  8. Maranello550

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    It’s kept on a Velcro strap made in Chin....AH...:)
     
  9. 575

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    Like a surfers leg rope??
     
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  10. Cyt

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    Yes. Private is one of the ave to boost resources and beds..
    Hospital previously ‘shelled’ ICU pods are all coming online. Westmead hosp sped up completion and commissioning. Blacktown hosp moving to new ICU now which was meant to be July
    And we r planning temp hospital..
     
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  11. kerrari

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    To be honest, I think the ‘tested’ is a bit of a red herring - I think what counts is the ‘hospitalisation’ rate and the deaths vs recovery rate.
     
  12. moretti

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    #687 moretti, Apr 2, 2020
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    Heard an interesting interview on the radio today suggesting that due to NYC's high density apartment environment the chances of getting through the day without touching something an infected person has touched is neigh on impossible .... similar to China and other high density living

    And here is a classic, I was working at DJs in the Sydney CBD last night and security were dead set on keeping us all 1.5 metres apart, BUT, the sign in was on a tablet and everyone is touching the same keypad keys with no-one wiping the screen between sign ins so keeping 1.5 metres apart was pointless ........ and security didn't get what I was on about when I told them !!!
     
  13. 575

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    No
    To accurately count numbers of infected and ultimately the true death rate you must test as many as you can. the bigger the sample , the more accurate the data.

    An impossibility.
     
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  14. 575

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    I would go with that. Bloody scary.
     
  15. greg246

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    He’ll be there too
     
  16. islerodreaming

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    That's all very well Ian, but have you spent any time in A&E or ICU recently? My wife has had a stay in both with heart and respiratory issues - I can tell you no doctor or nurse there thinks it's a beat up, all are very worried.

    John
     
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  17. moretti

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    Hi John, sorry to hear that, had similar in the past with previous partner and now living with health professional who has just finished working in WSAHS system for 40+ years and is not going back into the health system until this crap is over ... says it all .......... and no Steve, it's not the male nurse , he's over Ferrari people since he slept with you :p
     
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  18. Steve355F1

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    Both figures are perfectly worthwhile as long as they are used consistently.

    As you say, it's just maths.
     
  19. Steve355F1

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    So why have South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore been so successful in fighting this?
    Is Seoul way less densely populated than NY?

    I was able to answer my own question.
    Seoul is significantly more densely populated than NYC.

    17,000 people / sqkm vs 10,200
     
  20. 575

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    The time honoured statistical principle applies.

    Garbage in Garbage out
     
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  21. Aircon

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    So true
     
  22. 575

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    They got onto it really early . Tested and contact traced.
    Australia is doing the same.
    Great effort.
     
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  23. Ferraridoc

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    FFS, you didn't read it either! We'll never know the number of resolved cases, because many people will become infected and recover without ever being tested. Every available data-set from around the world gives total cases, new daily cases, and total deaths. Not perfect, but it's relatable. Yes, I get that total deaths today, relate to positive cases from weeks ago, and you have to follow each case through to recovery or death and then compare the two. The problem is that, at the moment, the numbers are too low. The relationship between total deaths and total cases is a function of the slope of the graph.
     
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  24. Aircon

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    So don't quote a "death rate", you senile old fool
     
  25. Ferraridoc

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    As at 7pm today, total cases in Australia 5136, and total deaths 24 (0.47%)
     
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