430 Manual Conversion Parts List

Not exactly what you're after, but EUrospares gave me this conversion list for a 360 for F1 to manual.
Part Number

Table

Per Car

Description

180841

T 35 / L 15

1

Clutch Master Cylinder (Pump)

181751

T 33 / L 1

1

Gearbox Control (Housing)

12601574

T 33 / L 27

1

Washer (for Reverse Switch)

115980

T 33 / L 26

1

Push Button Reverse Switch

181752

T 33 / L 21

1

Rear Bushing

181753

T 33 / L 21

1

Front Bushing

182391

T 33 / L 51

1

Nut (For Front Bushing)

172918

T 33 / L 18

2

C-Clip

176419

T 33 / L 16

1

Pin for Shifter - Needs Split pin to secure)

14160570

T 33 / L 17

1

Split Pin (Secure Pin)

176642

T 33 / L 15

1

Lever (Main Lever for Reverse)

172934

T 33 / L 14

1

Small Block (Main Lever for Reverse)

176626

T 33 / L 12

1

Fulcrum (Main shift lever housing)

180936

T 33 / L 5

1

Gearbox Control Lever

174967

T 33 / L 6

1

Bushing

159137

T 33 / L 7

1

Spring

13896070

T 33 / L 9

1

Split Pin (Secure Pin)

199070

T 33 / L 8

1

Bushing (For Reverse Safety)

108010

T 33 / L 11

1

Counter Nut (To secure shift ball)

160480

T 33 / L 10

1

Shift Knob (STD.) PATTERN

223130

T 33 / L 10

1

Shift Knob (CARBON)

179844

T 33 / L 19

1

Gear Selector - Shift Gated (STANDARD)

220439

T 33 / L 19

1

Gear Selector - Shift Gated (CARBON KNOB)

159357

T 33 / L 20

4

Screw (Machine screw for gear selector)

219570

T 33 / L 61

1

Spacer (Between Gearbox Housing and Selector)

176425

T 33 / L 13

1

Pin (Main pin for Fulcrum)

177029

T 33 / L 22

1

Pin (Compression Cup)

177027

T 33 / L 23

1

Spring (For Compression Cup)

177028

T 33 / L 24

1

Spring Retaining Disc

11058976

T 33 / L 25

1

Flexible Ring (C-Clip)

14567187

T 33 / L 19

1

Button (Plastic)

182268

T 33 / L 28

1

Complete Gear Box Control Cables

202619

T 33 / L 34

1

Support Lever

171677

T 33 / L 42

2

Roller Bearing

174984

T 33 / L 43

2

Bushing (for Roller Bearing)

178840

T 33 / L 37

1

Lever

174911

T 33 / L 48

1

Fork (Twisted Fork)

174974

T 33 / L 49

4

Pin (Pin for Forks)

11065674

T 33 / L 50

4

Seeger Ring (Clip for Pin Forks)

109407

T 33 / L 53

2

Ball bearing

174912

T 33 / L 54

1

Fork (Flat Fork for Upper Linkage)

178932

T 33 / L 55

1

Lever

177812

T 33 / L 30

1

Bracket for Cable Fixing

184022

T 32 / L 6

1

Complete Outer Control (Sub for Maserati 4200)

198268

T 32 / L 6

1

Complete Outer Control (Ferrari Sub for F430)

67895000

1

Exterior Trim

 

Yup. Mechanical are identical on the actual selection of gears and actuation of the clutch. It the "other" systems on the 430 you need to keep happy after you've removed the F1 kit.

 

May already know about it, but EAG are offering complete parts kits here:

https://www.gatedsix.com/forsale

 

Agreed; more fun that way.

Quite a few bits are NLA with Ferrari though. Key things like the turret aren’t available. Bound to be a wrecked 360 you can get one from if you look hard enough and are patient.

Alternatively you could be bold and try to fabricate- there’s a guy on here who’s making his own turret assembly. He’s even worked out how to adapt a Maserati gearbox plate to work on the 360 box.


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has anyone bought this kit? does it really exist?

 

The turret is what Ferrari call the gear stick housing.

Kinda looks like a turret?

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according to the website they are all new custom milled parts.... but I have yet to see any of the parts in the flesh or have anyone report that they received parts. I have seen photos of the guy that owns the business in handcuffs... so, yeah.

Its pretty simple, if a guy had the clutch pedal, the shift mechanism, and the monkey motion that bolts to the side of the trans, you could easily scan them and have it all milled. You would sell hundreds of sets immediately. I have no idea why no one has done it.

 

I've done some research as I've been collecting parts for a conversion if I want in the future. Two absolutely key parts that are no longer available.. as in on this earth, are the clutch pedal and the main shifter assembly 181751. Eurospares website says it has the 181751 but.. it will come back as "unavailable".

 

So. I've been bored with all the COVID shutdown. And I've come to a realization for the conversion: if you want a functional part, it can be done cheap but it won't look good. If you want a beautiful part (and essentially Ferrari parts are art).. you're going to pay. Now, one of the issues that I have is there's always someone who says "it should be really easy to CNC the part after a scan and it can be done for a fraction of the cost to those who are interested in the conversion". Every time, the final part still has the Ferrari tax. So I wondered, if I wanted to make a part that worked, could I do it with hand tools? Basically what is around the house: a Harbor freight drill, a couple files, a harbor freight jigsaw and a hacksaw. What could I do? Well this is what I could do for around $40 in materials and a $130 brake box (including brake pedal) from an F1 360. The rub with the clutch pedal is the shape as it accommodates the steering rack. I did this with stacked aluminum and a bent square tube that I"ll eventually cover with epoxy and carbon fiber tape. It works, but it ain't pretty. I have a manual 360.. but I wanted to see if I could replicate the parts with hand tools. I could always change the parts if better replicas are available for down to earth prices in the future... but for now this will provide a car that can be driven manually. Actual shift box is next on parts to acquire or see what can used alternatively. I'm not paying $2000 for a metal shift gate replica and a CNC'd pedal.
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TBH I'm exhausted from whittling away at aluminum in the last 3-4 weeks. As of today, May 2, 2020 there are three key pieces for a 360 conversion. The clutch pedal, the shift gate, and the shifter assembly. I still need to find a shifter assembly that works and is drop in, or a way to fab the OEM gate. Unlike alot of what is being done.. I'll post what I find and ultimately if I acquire a second 360 for scrap prices if the economy tanks.

 

I'm not really interested in converting my F1, but I do enjoy watching the threads and seeing some of the amazing technical know-how we have on this forum.

That being said I have to ask why you say to run from gatedsix? Kind of a harsh thing to say without expanding on why...

 

Subscribed. Definitely want to convert my 430

 

I'm amazed at what you produced with hand tools! I've had a CNC machine for eight years now and the stuff I can make, with repeatability, is quite amazing. You might look into getting one. I couldn't have made the hardtop for my 360 Spider without it. They open a world of physical possibilities.

Here's a couple of aluminum parts I made recently from .25" 6061T6:
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You might consider getting a small CNC to help with your parts creation.

 

For the shifter gate just investment cast it from the original

 

I think they will now do the conversion if you want non oem parts for about 20k installed. Seems a viable option.