My 400 headers are a metallic white which is the same as the 365 boxer header coating. I don't know what they used but it peels off almost like an aluminized coating such is the case with a set I have here kicking around in my basement.
Thanks heaps Arvid and Newman. That's very helpful. I shall move ahead with those jobs armed with that info
Tim - The Vitaloni Tornado is hard to come by and are offered at high prices when available (surprise). They where delivered to the 400 and also later Lamborghini Espada. A newer version is the Baby Tornado but they are not as nice - more plasticky. A tip is to search the 70's and early 80's Alfa Romeo models as some came with the Tornado - but often without the electric. I think Alfa Romeo Spider around 1980 had the same mirrors.
Thanks again for the useful information Arvid. My parts guy here has a big bucket of various mirrors so hopefully he has a pair. I didn't realise that they were electric either, good to know also, but more wiring for me to figure out!
Hi Tim, If you go ahead with mouse hair for the dash, I may have enough here in Sydney for you. Cheers.
I've been plugging away at my car a bit since this virus lockdown has put me out of work for the near future at least, so I'll probably start asking more questions about 400 assembly from you Gurus out there. Here's my latest question: I have new engine bay heat shields from Maranello UK (for a LHD car the LH shield p/n is 103573, the RHS p/n is 105084). I'd like to know if they are fixed to the firewall by rivets or if they are bonded on from the factory? Thanks Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my SM-G935F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Hi Tim, Sorry to hear about the job situation. These heat shields are riveted on. They have 3 rivets top & bottom & the right hand shield has an additional rivet on the tunnel side. They also have fibre insulation glued to the back side of the shields. If you need any more pictures give me a yell. Cheers, Al Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Awesome thanks heaps Al. That's a great help. Maranello supplied one with insulation and one without. I've got some good ceramic blanket I'll put in and swap out with the cheaper Ferrari insulation Sent from my SM-G935F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Today's question is about aircon systems. I'm assuming my car was delivered from the factory with rear air,as there are vent holes in the rear firewall and vents on my rear trims, but I don't have all the parts for it. Is it really worth chasing down the rear cooler and doing all the plumbing for it? I do have an anti-frost vale, but that's about all. I assume I may need to make some wiring mods too, not sure though, I haven't examined that part of the wiring diagram. It seems to me it a lot of work that may cost me a lot of time, effort and money. Would you more hands on guys fit it? If you've played with rear air before was it alright or a daunting system to work with? Thanks for the input.
Even on my single AC car, all the wiring harness are here. I also have the manual gearbox harness even If my car has an auto tranny. I presume all cars were fitted with the same harness regardless of the option (auto/manual tranny, single/dual AC). If you remove the handbrake trim, you can easily spot whether you've got some spare wires (I do). Note that the compressor for dual AC was equivalent to York 210 (it's an ASPERA, so like a york but with a few metric bolts), whereas single AC was equivalent to York206 (lookalike, but with shorter piston stroke). At low speed the smaller york may lack a bit of capacity, this could be a real issue if you use new gas such as R416 or R134a. Not sure I would make the swap as the 210 is much more noisy. I presume, any generic cooler in the back could do the trick as there is quite a lot of room in the trunk. I've played with my single AC and that's a daunting system to work with...
Tojo See if you have the control unit that routes the Freon to the front / rear / both. It is a complicated brass fitting with multiple Freon lines (I think liquid) and has electrical input too. It is located behind battery near firewall. Without that unit, I'm not sure how Freon will know where to go; it is where the split is between common lines and dual lines. Do you have the diagram in manual? Ken
Raemin, thanks for the info on the compressor size and wiring. I'll investigate tomorrow what size compressor I got from GT car parts. That may determine whether I have a crack at it or not. Ken, I do have the manuals. The way I understood them was that the anti-frost valve is the one you mention that directs the flow of freon. I may be wrong though. I'm still trying to get my head around the components I have, what is serviceable and what I need to buy and replace. Fun times.... Sent from my SM-G935F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Tojo Part I am referring to is not the anti-frost valve. See item #19 in the diagram below. It is very likely "unavailable" unless you find NOS. It may be under dash but if I remember correct it is between battery and fire wall. Ken Image Unavailable, Please Login
This is the part Ken is talking about above. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Sorry for not looking closer at your original post. Your car has the first generation relay box, I see no provision for the additional wiring. Looking at the battery tray, the dual valve is missing. Aside from the harness you will need an "evaporator blower unit" (for the trunk) and two "liquid line refigerant solenoid valve" (the gizmo behind the battery). I know the single AC units are using generic components (except for the evaporator), and I could easily source "stock looking" spare parts (Dryer, expansion valve, thermostat all from Napa). Maybe you could also find the original part-numbers for all your missing bits and rebuild a "stock" setup, but I would personally just purchase whatever fits properly in the car.
Yep. I thought so. I do have that part, but in light of the lack of other parts, hoses, and probable wiring issues I'm leaning towards doing a standard single air set up. I don't envision too many back seat passengers either! Sent from my SM-G935F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
You will need new hoses anyway as the old ones are close to the exhaust and probably leaking. The refrigerant oil usually seals these cracks, but you'd be better of changing these old pieces of rubber. Note : 1) There is no other way than cutting the old hose as there is no room for the fittings in the fender and you will end up damaging the fender (ask me how I know...) 2) route the bare tube in the fender and then crimp the fittings. 3) I did not follow the advice of my AC specialist which recommended to use smaller diameter hoses. I was wrong! A slightly smaller hose would make the job much easier. 4) Last but not least, once the engine is back in the engine bay, you cannot replace the hose any-more! If you do not install the rear AC, you can re-use the holes for additional loudspeakers, that's probably the most elegant way to hide modern speakers.
If you do install some rear air-conditioning, you can simplify the installation and discard the adjustable thermostat (a fixed anti-frost probe would be more than enough), I would also do the same for the front thermostat (remove the rotary switch on the right of the console). This would leave a spare location in the wood console for an additional 3 speed switch used to control the rear blower (and rear refrigerant liquid valve). Instead of one rotary switch for blower and one rotary switch for front thermostat, you would end-up with two rotary switches for front and rear blower. This would reduce your search for all the specific Ferrari bits and you could make it do without the dual AC specific relays. NB: the stock thermostats are useless as we usually turn these to maximum which is why so many of us do end-up with ice on the evaporator. At least the anti-frost probe allows for maximum cooling without damaging the system.
Today's question is what goes through this hole on the dashboard to the right of the Speedo drive? Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my SM-G935F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Mine didn't have anything pass through this hole. It has a rubber blanking plug on the other side. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks Al. That's good enough for me! I like results the mean less work and expense Your collection is a massive help. One of these days I'll have to fly out your way to check out all your Ferrari's and Fords. Today's mission is finding someone to sell me aircon hoses and fittings to run from the compressor to the evaporator. I'm sure that will mean work and expense.....
I'm hoping someone here can help me out on the wiring harness and aircon hose front as I haven't got any LHD cars nearby to go and look at. I wanna double check on where the hoses and loom are routed. The wiring comes up out of the right side footwell and I assumed that it was routed up over the fender behind the air duct to the front of the car. It seems that the aircon hoses come out of the firewall then are meant to be routed the same way through the same very small gap and come out near the compressor. Is this correct?? Cause I dead set can't get the two hoses and wiring through the gap. I'm at the point of removing the harness to try again, but before I do if anyone has any insights at all that may save me time and considerable cursing I'd be extremely grateful. Cheers Sent from my SM-G935F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Good day Tim, My car's interior is still out and so I will take a look to see if I can find out how the main wiring loom and AC hoses are ran from inside the cabin outwards. Although my car is a 365 I suspect it will be very similar to the 400GT series. I will report back later today. Cheers, Sam
The insertion process requires a lot of persuasion... First the wiring harness (let it "fall" on the lower part of the "gap" i.e toward the fender and away from the airduct), then the big aircon hose and finally the smaller one. So the big hose is in the middle, the smaller one is next to the air duct, and the harness is on the outer part of the engine bay. Now for the little tricks: I've inserted the hoses from the back of the fender (much harder to insert it from the compressor side). Once the big hose is inserted, you can use some strong tape to secure both hoses together and use the big hose as a "feeder" for the smaller one. A bit of help does not hurt: one guy pushes the joined hoses from the back while the other guy pulls the big hose from the front. Note that the wiring harness goes through a slightly different route than the aircon hoses. You'd better be very careful about the position of the harness as the exhaust is quite close and Ferrari did quite a good job at keeping it as far as it could be from the heat. The wiring harness that exits from the footwell passes behind the tubular frame (i.e away from the exhaust), then goes straight up between fender and cabin heater where it "meets" the air-conditioning hoses between washer bag and fender. Will take a few pic this week-end...
