F1 2020 Delayed: News/updates / is there hope :)

+1trillion lol - Ive posted similar in the past. Was flamed here for saying such lol

It should be a charity event. No race. Just timed event etc. Let the overtly wealthy pretend to care and visit their seldom used flats/penthouse for such 'deal making'

 

Meh, there are other tracks (Barcelona, Paul Ricard...) in the calendar that are boring as hell and are kept in the calendar without having the charm of Monaco, so leave it alone.

Maybe the track needs a serious re design though.

 

Agree the track needs some sort of re-design...we need an overtaking opportunity somewhere. Easiest fix would be to either get rid of the chicane after the tunnel (which would be a shame since it's such a difficult corner, and the only real overtaking spot) and re profile tabac (again, another absolutely fantastic corner, in my opinion tabac and swimming pool is probably the most underrated section in F1 as you need to be so incredibly precise and confident through there).

Another solution, and more preferable, would be to make a left just before Portier, go over that roundabout towards the Grimaldi forum, hairpin right and basically take a longer run towards the tunnel and the chicane, allowing a better opportunity to overtake there.

Alternatively those that always hate Monaco so much, ignore the race and watch the next one.

That said I could say the same about paul ricard for myself. lol. Loathe that track.

 

I liked to watch the Monaco GP 30 years ago, but not so much anymore; the qualifs are the best bit, the race is a farce.
Today's F1 look out of place there, now, it's good for F3 at most.
Modern cars have clearly overgrown Monaco, and the circuit cannot adapt, by definition.
I keep wondering why they don't take that circuit into consideration when they write technical rules for a new formula.
How Monaco obtains its safety clearance to organise a GP is a mystery to me.

 

I like Monaco
The only track where you can get within three feet of the cars

 

Hate is a big word here, I watch the race, but I consider the Monaco GP as an anachronism in the F1 season.
One of the many oddities F1 wants to keep at all cost: the mixture of modern and old.

Someone said that Monaco was like having a horse race in your living room, or perhaps he made allusion to a bicycle race..
Racing 800/900hp cars between walls on a twisty narrow track with hardly any escape road or run-off areas is weird nowadays.
It also goes against the safety measures the FIA imposes on other circuits, perhaps Baku excepted now. .

 

I don't think the safety aspect can be played here. Last (and only) death at Monaco was in 1967.

The current cars are just too wide and too much aero on them. 2022 should be a bit better. The V8 races where quite entertaining.

The only thing that 2022 has against them is the width. It makes it that much easier for a leading driver to stay ahead even with problems (see Ricciardo, at least 160bhp down on the next car in 2018 and still won the race). The narrower, lighter, less aerodynamic and simply more agile V8 cars where really nice to see in Monaco.

Today the qualifying is the best part of Monaco. A leading driver can stay ahead driving whatever pace he likes (i.e. winning the race as slow as possible). No need to risk hitting the wall. Just use the width of the car.

 

https://www.planetf1.com/news/second-italian-grand-prix-confirmation/

Soon we may know of second ItalyGP

 

Monaco is an anachronysm just like Ferrari painting its cars red: it doesn´t make any sense but we like them. It´s not that the cars have outgrown Monaco, they´ve outgrown almost everything and at Monaco it becomes more obvious. I think it´s going to be obvious at Zandvoort too.

I suppose cars and tracks entered a vicious circle that at some point should have been stopped.

 

Yet safety measures, escape roads or run-off areas are imposed on other circuits regardless of the casualties they may have.
A circuit like Brands Hatch wouldn't get its clearance for a F1 race, for example, even with more safety than Monaco.
To me, that's double standards, but this is F1 after all ...

True that increasing the cars width only amplifies the problem. The fact that overtaking is near impossible without co-operation at Monaco makes the race a lottery. The true benchmark is the qualifications.

 

I agree there.
A choice must be made to keep cars and tracks compatible.
Since cars are changed every year, it would make sense to draw rules to adapt them to the environment where they perform.
It would be far cheaper than modifying all the F1 tracks, or create new ones.

 

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That photo probably needs a bit of explanation !

Leclerc took a drive around Maranello this morning in the 2020 car allegedly because there were no filming days available......

He was unhappy that he had to get up early for it

No doubt there's a video coming

 

Actually, Leclerc took the SF1000 from where that picture was taken to the Pista de Fiorano....which is'nt far away. Yes, he drove on a public road.

 

RTL Germany says farewell to Formula 1 after 30 years

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/722001/RTL_Germany_says_farewell_to_Formula_1_after_30_years/



And that is the real reason for the decline of audience in F1 !

 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mercedes-announce-engine-chief-andy-cowell-is-to-leave-the-team.5j02couwRw8sgqsWkD17CH.html

 

2022 cars just slightly shorter and 5cm narrower is still nowhere near enough. 2016’s were 20cm narrower, what a stupid change of rules in 2017!
This the reason why Monaco sucks so bad now:

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Stupid is an understatement.... a very polite way to describe that disaster....

 

that picture just re-iterates how much I hate the long wheel base, oversized cars of today. The narrow body V10 cars where perfectly proportioned...Someone tell me what was wrong with that formula? All they needed to do was remove barge boards, smaller floor, remove winglets from body....the fans where robbed.

 

The picture illustrates what has gone wrong in F1.

a) no bodywork should come between the front and rear wheels.
b) the wheelbase must be such that the driver helmeted head and driving shoe fitted feet touch the front and rear wheels while lying down without stretching
c) no part of the body is allowed higher than 10 mm above the driver's helmet
d) no aerodynamic device is allowed to extend wider than the body or taller than the body.

 

https://www.planetf1.com/news/rtl-cease-f1-broadcasts-germany/

A situation not a surprise actually......

 

Back on this subject, again::

Imagine how much more passing if the cars were of the same size at the late 1960s--almost 1/2 as long so you don't need 35 feet to pass someone, you only need 20.

 

F1 has become a shadow of the glory past!

 

[AMuS]

The race in Mugello has been fixed! The race is scheduled to be one week after Monza, on the 13th of September! That means Ferrari will celebrate their 1000th GP there.

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F1 keeps Hockenheim as a replacement for Sochi, in case the already tense virus situation gets worse and there won't be any race there...

F1 is planning a race in Portimao and it is scheduled for the 4th of October. Imola, on the other hand, appears to be out of the running, which is apparently also due to the layout of the pit lane exit.

There is also currently an open discussion about an alternative date for the Canadian GP. It was originally scheduled for the second weekend in June and now the GP could find a place in October. According to current plans, Canada is to be combined with the US GP in Austin.

Unlikely are the races in Mexico and Brazil due to the virus situation there.

Since Singapore, Japan and Azerbaijan have officially cancelled their races, only one Asian race remains with China. In order to make the trip worth it, F1 is thinking of having two races in Shanghai.

The end of the season already seems to be taking shape. The current plan sees two races in Bahrain on different track variants. The final is taking place in Abu Dhabi like originally planned.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-kalender-2020-mugello-fix-hockenheim-ersatz/

 

I really need to get an F1 game of the 2020 season once they come out: Mugello as a F1 track is heavenly to me.

I also realized why this suddenly became a reality: the races have no audience so the whole logistics deal falls away

Given that logic they could actually have races in Road America, Watkins Glen and Laguna Seca. Well, ignoring the safety etc rules for F1 tracks of course...