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Where to Buy Dial Indicator That Fits?!

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  1. Gumart1

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    I'm doing a timing belt change on my 360 Spider and the space is tight in getting a dial indicator in the spark plug hole. Not looking to spend a fortune but accuracy would be nice! Any recommendations would be appreciated.
     
  2. Ferrari Tech

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    I am afraid it would be a custom made unit. A standard dial indicator works but it needs an extension and an adapter to fit in the plug hole. Ferrari had a tool from the factory and Hill Engineering makes the same kit. https://www.ricambiamerica.com/tdc-kit-01-top-dead-center-tool-kit.html $473.72 is a lot but it will show you what you need. I have machined my own plug adapter before, so it is not out of the question to have one made.
     
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  3. spider348

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    Hill Tool is a great unit for a Pro or serious DIYer. I have several Hill Tools.
    Or Use MSC for Deep Reach Dial Indicator. Magnetic Base with Articulating Arm.
    May have to have a steel plate machined to mount base. Not a lot of steel in a 360 engine bay.
    Base plate and Magnetic Holder will also work to time cams if in your plan.
     
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  5. tbakowsky

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    I just bought these..they come in 10, 12, 14mm thread sizes. Shopped from Poland.. 70 bucks each..much cheaper then the hill tool..

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  6. 2NA

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    Pretty sweet, where did you order them from? I've made a couple myself but that is too cheap not to buy.
     
  7. tbakowsky

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    Maybe this will help..

    I found them accidentally while looking for other tools..maybe this will help. I'll try to find them again and post a direct link..


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    FWIW-in my own experience as a prototyping machinist-as well as lifelong Ferrari knucklehead-Polish equipment, while not having the rep that Swiss or Swedish equipment has, is in general terms: excellent, quality, with reproduceable numbers. FWIW-the finest, commercially available cast iron for engine blocks comes out of the Gdansk shipyards in Poland...and don't forget: cold war factotem: the MiG factories were also found in Poland-so there is ALOT of talent/skill there, otherwise Mercedes Benz wouldn't be having had most of the 198 car(300SL) parts made in Poland ..until the scandal involving bogus/fake cars was exposed.....
    Best of all: its really cheap compared to the equivalent Mahr/Etalon etc, equipment.
    FWIW....
     
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  12. tbakowsky

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    Yes..10mm for the 360.
     
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  13. brian.s

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    I ordered the 10 and 14 sizes, on my home made rig, I used the adaptors from my leakage tester to downsize.
     
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    I picked up the Hill Engineering set and the quality is beyond measure. I sort of justified the purchase since I use Mitutoyo Dial Indicators all the time when I'm machining or measuring but I didnt have a metric one! ;-) I will use the indicator outside of TDC functions so it made sense for me. If anyone is piecing together stuff the indicator is model No. 2330S 10 but it has a custom engraved backplate that says Hill Eng. Do your own DD if you go this way I am not sure what they might have had customized. It's a 30mm travel indicator with a removable tip that you screw the 165mm extension onto.
     
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    Probably same guy I got mine from with High-Accuracy German Gauges.
     
  17. ccalo

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    Can you confirm if the 10mm tool still works with the valve cover not removed? Looks super close by the picture, but I’m taking on the cam change and I would like to know if I need to also purchase the gasket set. Thx
     
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    Yes it will work with the valve cover in place.
     
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    Thank you
     
  21. ccalo

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    I just completed my timing belts on my 360 and the 10mm worked perfectly! Thank you!
     
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    I also sprang for the HE version. It's extremely well made and quite honestly, could have been more expensive considering it's application... even at $400.
     

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