430 Are Fabspeed Exhaust Headers made in Taiwan ?

I'm not a fan of Fabspeed products and will never recommend them. My Fabspeed headers leaked at the flange, and after calling them they said it was within tolerance. I had to have a shop mill them flat and reinstall. Customer service is lacking...

 

Seriously? These are fabspeed headers?

https://m.alibaba.com/product/62442610029/performance-Exhaust-Stainless-Header-Head-Pipe.html?__detailProductImg=%2F%2Fs.alicdn.com%2F%40sc01%2Fkf%2FH324b45d146644c548c9488bd603b56a2G.jpg_140x140xz.jpg


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Are you sure? This is the video on the 458, but it doesn't look like Taiwan.

https://www.fabspeed.com/blog/how-its-made-ferrari-458-sport-headers-part-1/
https://www.fabspeed.com/blog/how-its-made-ferrari-458-sport-headers-part-2/

 

Lol im a tubi/capristo/novitec guy - dont have a Fabspeed relationship

 

Sure look similar to me

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Anyone have a used capristo exhaust they want to sell?

 

Why not get a Fabspeed set for $850

 

In all seriousness, I am a little disappointed by all of this. I purchased based on the assumption that these were made in the US. I had problems with the headers and they did not step up. Now finding out about these headers makes it feel dishonest.

I just went to the Fabspeed website and here is what it says: "All of our products are handcrafted right here in For Washington, Pennsylvania by our very skilled and passionate fabricators."

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id be pissed too, to say the least.

 

In speaking to some non Fchat people, the fabspeed using chinese manufactures has been well known for a long time.


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"All of our products are handcrafted right here in China by our Alibaba marketplace partners, then we place a 4x markup to better serve you."

 

Hey All, Fabspeed is happy to provide some info for the Ferrari community, we have global partners both stateside and international that we do a lot of business with. As for the photos taken by Alibaba, that's exactly what they do to hundreds of vendors and Etsy shop owners and sell at extremely low wholesale rates. Our products as well as partners in the industry have been shamelessly copied for many years. There's a reason they only show 1 or 2 photos and not other detailed images, that's so you can't notice they do not have F1 merge collectors as ours does. We source components globally and have very close relationships with engineers around the world when it comes to these products - all which go through a quality control check before leaving out our back door.

Ridege55- apologize if you had a leaking issue with your Fabspeed Motorsport Ferrari performance headers. The inlet flange was machined flat and perhaps the headers needed to be Re-Torqued after the 1st or 2nd serious heat-cycle. This is normal when installing headers. We supply all our headers with brand new OEM Ferrari header gaskets and Wurth german hardware. A little back-ground> Ferrari headers are the Achilles heel for damaging these engines. We have many customers who've received this product with no issue and would be happy to show direct feedback. It sounds like we had dropped the ball on the service but would be happy to make it up - it's only in our customers eyes that we can call ourselves successful. Check out NormalGuySupercar on YouTube, Dan just recently did a project F430 with our headers.

Fabspeed Motorsport USA was the worlds very 1st company to design engineer and dyno develop performance headers starting with the F355 5.2 and 2.7 injection models. We CAD designed T304 stainless steel lost wax header flanges and machine them flat. The OEM FErrari headers use mild cold rolled steel that warps and can rust out. Our engineering team then applied the same experience and knowledge to the Ferrari 360. Thereafter we developed and manufactured the F430 and F458 headers. We'd be happy to have you cruise by our facility and take a tour and SEE our headers being made and developed.

We're sorry to say but we've not had the chance to do business with Richard CH nor have an opportunity to help him. Richard is entitled to his view and opinion but do not necessarily reflect those of Fabspeed or it's products. Our goal is to have overwhelmingly positive customers and we've been working at improving that continuously for over 25 years. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and it's the first way to failure to try to please everyone. We appreciate opportunities like that to make it right and satisfy you as a buyer. While we're all fans of loud exhausts and exhilarating sounds, not all neighbors will agree!

Years ago Mr. Capristo himself wanted to buy and resell Fabspeed Ferrari headers. Here is a tour of our facility and building. We often have the Ferrari Club Porsche Club and many other car clubs at our facility.

Either way, we at Fabspeed hope this provides some clarity.

Ridege55- If you nee new gaskets and hardware let me know. If you are local cruise by our facility I will personally inspect your headers.

I hope you and everyone is well and having a great safe and happy summer.

 

My headers were installed by a VERY reputable shop. I assure you 100% that the headers were re-torqued before they were taken off. Re-torquing did not resolve the exhaust leak. #3 cylinder was leaking and the header was found to be warped by .33MM. When Fabspeed was contacted, your customer service responded that "this was within normal tolerance". If you would like to make this right, please cover the cost of labor to mill the header flat and re-installation of the header. PM me and I can provide you all the receipts.

One more question, were my headers handcrafted in your facility or were these from your global partners. If these were from your global partners, did you QC them before you sent them out? I don't care where they are made, as long as the quality is there.

 

Hey Ridge,
Phil at Fabspeed Here. Joe asked me to reach out to see how I can help. I will shoot you a PM and send me the details.

 

I think Fabspeed is saying that the pics on Alibaba may be "borrowed" from their website and that they are not the same headers. I do know they get parts from around the world because they make it no secret the valves for the exhaust come from Europe. With the way the world is today, it wouldn't surprise me if the actual steel alloy for the headers came from a foundry in China. With the lack of environmental laws there, some things can only be made in China at a reasonable price, if at all.

Fabspeed did say if you don't believe they assemble the headers in-house you can simply stop by and watch them being constructed.

 

Hi Corey and everyone
Fabspeed Motorsport product pictures have been shamelessly copied by many European and Asian companies as their own product photographs as we have great pictures at Fabspeed. These are facts and its happening more and more daily- its actually alarming and causes confusion. These companies simply take our pictures and assign the products as their own to either entice one to buy what they think is the same quality product. Its ridiculous. .
For example the Alibaba Ferrari F430 header photo is a 100% shameless copy of the Fabspeed Motorsport Ferrari F430 header. Those people at Alibaba will NEVER EVER deliver a header as is shown.

Here is why- 99.9% of the time those companies are not car enthusiast like all of us here and have not idea what they are looking at . Sophisticated Ferrari guys and owners like myself can SEE right through all of that and are not confused. Yes I can attempt to sue these people but they are overseas and out of our jurisdiction. Even patents do not help unless one has unlimited funds to pursue infringement.

You guys should laugh at these cheap knock-offs of Ferrari, Porsche headers and exhaust systems. Good luck. I have actually had these Asian companies ship FREE samples with no notice from time to time. The quality is simply terrible. Cheated mandrel bends, cheated welds, internal flow obstructions, flexible bellows that break and etc.

Take a look at that Fabspeed F430 header and the Alibaba header. Does anyone know what model that F430 header is for? Only hard-core true Ferrari tifosi would know. Fabspeed Motorsport was the Worlds Very 1st company to design, develop nd manufacture this F430 performance header and took that picture over 13 years ago>>>> ANSWER below- fellow Ferrari Tifosi.




ANSWER>>>>ITS a god-damn Ferrari F430 Scuderia header 16M header that Fabspeed Motorsport designed, built and Dyno developed 100% in house and builds them too for the rare F430 final versions of the Scuderia belinetta and 16M rare F430 spider.

All of you and anyone are cordially invited to cruise over to fabspeed Motorsport and take a tour of our 26,000 sqft state of the art facility. My guys can also email Videos.
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