AustrianGP 2020 RACE 2 Pre-Race thread | FerrariChat

AustrianGP 2020 RACE 2 Pre-Race thread

Discussion in 'F1' started by jgonzalesm6, Jul 6, 2020.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,834
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
  2. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,834
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    Rumours from Spain and France are intensifying. Apparently Abiteboul informed his most experienced and long-running mechanics that the soon-to-be-announced Renault driver already worked with them. An announcement is expected to be issued on Wednesday
     
  3. Ferrari 308 GTB

    Ferrari 308 GTB F1 Veteran

    Feb 21, 2015
    7,743
    Tropical
    Grosjean coming back ...what a dream team for 2021?
     
    375+ and amerikalei like this.
  4. zygomatic

    zygomatic F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 19, 2008
    4,855
    Washington, DC
    Full Name:
    Chris
    Rain would be great.
     
    lorenzobandini and E60 M5 like this.
  5. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

    Nov 26, 2003
    7,498
    Technically speaking, it´s the Styrian GP.
     
    Jeronimo GTO and jgonzalesm6 like this.
  6. Patrick Dixon

    Patrick Dixon Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2012
    1,084
    UK
    Yes, agreed. Having two races at the same circuit on successive weekends we need something to shake things up. Otherwise why bother with the Fri/Sat am setup sessions at all?
     
    tifosi12 likes this.
  7. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,834
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    Yes it is....technically.
     
  8. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,834
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    Yes it would. Rain would equalize the field and also bring out the "all-around" driver.
     
    zygomatic likes this.
  9. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,834
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    Maybe....just maybe...it's Alonso?? ;)
     
    tifosi12 and william like this.
  10. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    25,594
    I bet that Vettel can't wait for an occasion to show his skill in the rain .:p
     
    John_K_348, paulchua and DF1 like this.
  11. Ferrari 308 GTB

    Ferrari 308 GTB F1 Veteran

    Feb 21, 2015
    7,743
    Tropical
    Ohh please nooo more F2 !
     
    paulchua and jgonzalesm6 like this.
  12. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    25,594

    What? Going to Renault for the ... third time ?
     
    jgonzalesm6 likes this.
  13. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,834
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    I know...........I know.....but those are the rumors currently going around.

    Crazy!!:rolleyes:
     
  14. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Time for the FIA and the circuit to make some rule changes as noted in the link

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/feature/10391/tim-wright-safety-cars-saved-a-boring-austrian-gp

    --Let's talk about track limits. In the UK, the rule is that you can have two wheels over the white line: any more than that and you will be penalised. In Austria, they have a white line, but there is also an area of red and white stripes that apparently you're allowed to use. It seems that this area is a ripple kerb, designed as such to discourage drivers spending too much time on them.

    In practice some teams, notably McLaren and Red Bull, found that they were breaking front wing components by using the red and white kerbs. In the race both Mercedes drivers were warned not to use them as they were in danger of breaking their gearboxes. There may well have been consequences for other teams as well, so why don't the stewards enforce a rule to say only two wheels are allowed? The laptimes may be slower, but isn't that better than having a depleted field?--
     
    John_K_348 and william like this.
  15. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,834
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
  16. 11506apollo

    11506apollo Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 16, 2008
    2,493
    Tx Co Ca
    That makes sense, consequently its being ruled out by FIA .....
     
  17. 11506apollo

    11506apollo Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 16, 2008
    2,493
    Tx Co Ca
    Someone with better memory than me, was this Spin number 4 or 5 ?
     
    paulchua likes this.
  18. Robb

    Robb Moderator
    Moderator Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Feb 28, 2004
    13,892
    Full Name:
    Robb
    I hope it rains all weekend.

    Robb
     
    rmani and E60 M5 like this.
  19. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

    Jun 26, 2013
    3,001
    London UK
    Full Name:
    Graham
    Anybody know what Charle's record is like in wet races?
     
  20. paulchua

    paulchua Cat Herder
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 1, 2013
    16,092
    Menlo Park, CA
    Full Name:
    Paul Chua
    Nostradamous, oh wise one, tell us the future again my friend!
     
  21. paulchua

    paulchua Cat Herder
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 1, 2013
    16,092
    Menlo Park, CA
    Full Name:
    Paul Chua
    2015 (1 Mistake):

    GP: Mexico

    Session: Race

    Event: Touches Ricciardo at the start, closing the door. Vettel gets a puncture. After his tyre change, he spins in turn 7. Trying to claw back positions, outbreaks himself, then crashes - also in turn 7. After the race, Ricciardo will say Vettel deserved the puncture, as he left him no space at all.

    Result: DNF

    2016 (2 Mistakes):

    GP: Malaysia

    Session: Race

    Event: Outbreaks himself in turn 1, crashes into Rosberg (sends him spinning). Retires on the spot with a broken front suspension.

    Result: DNF

    GP: Brazil

    Session: Race

    Event: Spins in the wet, thrashing the tyres as a result, and is thus forced to pit. Finishes behind Perez’s Force India.

    Result: P5, +26,3s

    2017 (3 Mistakes):

    GP: Azerbaijan

    Session: Race

    Event: Intentionally hits Hamilton under safety car to intimidate him, earning a 10s stop and go penalty.

    Result: P4, +6s

    GP: Singapore

    Session: Race

    Event: Crash involving Raikkonen and Verstappen at the start. Vettel is the chief culprit, for trying to unnecessarily close the door in the middle of the straight, and with the position of the surrounding cars uncertain due to limited visibility. Vettel, Alonso, Verstappen, Raikkonen are all forced to retire.

    Result: DNF

    GP: Mexico

    Session: Race

    Event: Something between a racing incident and Vettel’s mistake. Vettel touches Verstappen, then hits Hamilton with considerable force, damaging his front wing (which is changed in the pits). While this is mainly a racing incident, it was surely avoidable for someone involved in a championship fight.

    Result: P4, +1.10m

    2018 (7 Mistakes):

    GP: Azerbaijan

    Session: Race

    Event: Safety car restart, Vettel tries to outbrake Bottas, going deep and flatspotting tyres. Perez overtakes him as well the following lap.

    Result: P4, +5,3s

    GP: France

    Session: Race

    Event: Crashes into Bottas at the start, sending him into a spin and damaging both cars.

    Result: P5, + 1.01m

    GP: Austria

    Session: Q2

    Event: Impeding Carlos Sainz in Q2 earns him a 3 spots penalty. Given the tiny margin from victory, he could’ve probably won the race, had he started from his original qualifying position.

    Result: P3, +3s

    GP: Germany

    Session: Race

    Event: Crashes while leading the race, under pressure from Hamilton, who was gaining several seconds per lap in the wet and then went on to win the race. In this race Vettel could’ve extended his championship lead, with Hamilton starting P14, but the end result was very different.

    Result: DNF

    GP: Italy

    Session: Race

    Event: Spins while trying to defend from Hamilton at Variante Della Roggia. With a cooler head, he could’ve passed Hamilton the following lap, using Ferrari’s superior top speed.

    Result: P4, +16,1s

    GP: Japan

    Session: Race

    Event: Tries to overtake Verstappen at Spoon, pushing both cars off the track. Vettel spins and has to wait for the whole group to go through before rejoining.

    Result: P6, +1.10m

    GP: USA

    Session: Race

    Event: Spins during a fight Ricciardo, while team mate Raikkonen wins the race. (Edited, as I was made aware there was contact in that occasion)

    Result: P4, +18,2s

    2019 (4 Mistakes):

    GP: Bahrain

    Session: Race

    Event:Under pressure from Hamilton, spins while trying to defend, without contact. Tyres are flat spotted and vibrations cause his front wing to collapse, forcing him to pit. Meanwhile, team mate Charles Leclerc is in a commanding race lead, before his engine lets him down.

    Result: P5, +36s

    GP: Canada

    Session: Race

    Event: Under pressure from Hamilton, goes wide and cuts a corner, rejoining in a dangerous way and getting a 5s penalty. While he could’ve at least tried to keep pushing to get the 5s lead he needed to still win the race, spends the rest of the race screaming in the radio, ultimately handing Hamilton the win.

    Result: P2, +3,6s

    GP: Great Britain

    Session: Race

    Event: After an overtake from Verstappen, misses his braking point, hitting Ves hard and sending both cars into the gravel.

    Result: P16, +1L

    GP: Italy

    Session: Race

    Event: Spins on his own at the second apex of Variante Ascari, while chasing Bottas. Rejoins dangerously, hitting Stroll and making him spin. Breaks his front wing, and then gets a 10s stop and go penalty. Meanwhile, team mate Leclerc gets his second win in a row.

    Result: P13, +1L
     
  22. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

    Jun 26, 2013
    3,001
    London UK
    Full Name:
    Graham
  23. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

    Jun 26, 2013
    3,001
    London UK
    Full Name:
    Graham
    Sorry, small green shots of hope popping up again....
    Ready for the yearly crushing
     
    ingegnere likes this.
  24. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

    Jun 26, 2013
    3,001
    London UK
    Full Name:
    Graham
    Harsh, but fair
     
    ingegnere likes this.
  25. paulchua

    paulchua Cat Herder
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 1, 2013
    16,092
    Menlo Park, CA
    Full Name:
    Paul Chua
    Don't get me wrong, I have nothing personal against Vettel. I don't know the man obviously, for all I know he's an amazing and beautiful person.

    Keep in mind all my criticism is purely based on his performance on track, outside the track he could be the best person in the world - I definitely don't know.

    Just fun ribbing and bar room banter from me.
     

Share This Page