NF2's vs HRE P47's for my 456 GT?

I vote for the HRE..

 

I vote for the Novitec instead!

 

HRE is my pick. I love the Novitecs on the 550/575, but for some reason it doesn't look right on the 456 in the pic you provided, IMHO. You could always go BBS LM, I think Henry has a set for sale. I did it, and I think they look great on the 550.

 

Both look great especially under red. Very slight edge to HRE. The flatter spokes seem to fit the car's lines better, but that is completely in the eye of the beholder.

 

The Novitecs, definitely. Look in this thread, there are two 456's in there with NF2's, one Grigio Ingrid and one black. Looks stunning. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342809&highlight=novitec

EDIT - I also really like the headlight treatment that black 456 has. Perhaps anyone has more info on it?

 

I like that light treatment as well. However, I'm trying to keep this car as close to stock as possible as I think it might devalue it in the long run. If I was going to do this mod, I'd consider this to be one of the first! Maybe, someone can post info about this. I have learned that the pop up head lights are now illegal in new cars so I guess it's a novelty that'll never be seen on new cars again.

I, too, like the Novitecs, but think I can get a better deal on the HRE's. Also, the lack of need for spacers and easier to find tires are a plus towards the HRE's. We have HRE's on my turbo and they are probably some of the best after market wheels out there. I posted a pic of my other toy car so you can see how well the HRE's can improve the looks.

Thanks again for your insight and keep it coming.

John
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I vote HRE mainly because they fit better and won't need spacers. I am always against adding more parts than necessary to make something work.

 

To me these look very similar (ok, at least at that scale/distance). The HREs look like they are brassed metal, which is better but difficult to repair, while the Novitec are painted, no?

It would be down to the price and the weight. If you have significant gains in either I would go for that set.

 

Agree, unsprung weight is a BIG factor. In almost any instance I had larger wheels on a car the ride suffered too much. My daily driver came with very nice looking wheels but I ended up absolutely hating them; the ride was so much better on stock wheels, mainly because they were nearly half the weight.

 

It's well known among the Porsche group that the 18' stock wheels are a far better ride that the 19" aftermarket wheels. Many owners who track their cars actually keep their 18" for the track and put the 19" for their daily driving. I didn't get to drive my turbo with the 18" before the modding bug hit, so I can't compare, but the 19" wheels look great on the car. I just don't want to ruin the ride on my 456.

 

I found that large wheels not only deteriorate comfort but also make a car accelerate slower, as that weight has to be accelerated in two ways - both in a straight line and rotational. In that sense a small rim with a balloontire is actually better as there is comparatively little weight on the far edge of the wheel. But still it's hard to resist those looks...

 

Exactly, look at F1 rims, I think they are 14 or 15 inch.

 

or buy my BBS LMs..... lighter, cheaper...........

 

post pics please Henry

I prefer the first photo

 

Sorry for the confusion, Cyphur01 - son and Patrnflyr - father, owner of the cars. My son does all the brain work for the both of us!

 

I have NF2s so I abstain on the vote. NF2s are painted silver and easy to touch-up. The difference in acceleration is negligible on 400 ft-lb V12s, but I am replacing my lug bolts and wheel spacer bolts with titanium. I figure that and the carbon fiber brakes make up for a little bit of wheel weight. With 9" front and 12.5" rear wheels and 355/25 19 rear tires, the car corners much better than it did on the stock 10.5Jx18 wheels and 295/35 18 tires. 456 owners with NF2s have commented on the same thing after replacing their 8.5jx17 and 10Jx17 wheels with larger ones. Most Ferraris are underwheeled and undertired, which is why Scuds, HGTE 599s, and 599 GTOs go to wider wheels and tires. The 612s started with 18" F and 19" R wheels and the last option wheels went to 20" all around.

John- We have never been able to determine the origin of the covered headlights on that black 456M. We originally thought Novitec, but they deny any culpability.

 

Taz, thanks for the info. It does look nice but I think the 456 will keep its uniqueness with the pop ups. I was just curious about it.

John

 

I go for:
fitment first
lightness second
durability third
parts availability fourth

The top picture wheels look more like they would have come from the factory and fit the look of car better.

 

FBB- Makes sense because they are copies of the Enzo wheels, less the knock-off feature, and even almost the same size. Enzo wheels 9"/13", NF2s 9"/12.5".

 

John,
Here is the real thing. Just fitted to my 456GT. Rosso Corso and Crema.
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Looks great! I love my NF2's, really makes a huge difference.

 

Edit: Woops, replied to the wrong thread.


Well either way... Putting various sources on Ferrarichat together (I have some 512M front wheels my garage, I will weigh them later):

18in:
512 front - 31.0 lbs
512 rear - 33.7 lbs

512m front - pending
512m rear - ???

550 front 23.9 lbs
550 rear 26.9 lbs
575 front 26.3 lbs
575 rear. 29.3 lbs

19in:
575 front 30.12 lbs
575 rear 32.25 lbs

 

I vote for the NF2...looks factory.