Anyone know the total production numbers? Secondly, V12 vs. LussoT production numbers?
I would say around 2000-2500 for the V12 and 1000-1500 for the V8. The production of the Lusso T has ended a few weeks ago.
Probably right with these estimates but the resale market right now is completely flipped - I see lots of V8's and a lot less V12's.
Don’t know exactly if already stopped for the V12, but last examples are being produced - or have just left the factory. The V12 without GPF if something that will keep a higher value on resale for the recent Ferrari models (see the threads about the 812 VS rumours). It will surely be the case with the GTC4 Lusso V12, and that’s maybe why owners keep their GTC4 V12 for the moment as an investment. The GTC4 Lusso T has about the same engine as the rest of the range so it will loose its value.
Also worth reminding that the FF and Lusso variants are the last of their kind as Ferrari plans to roll this product line into the new FUV Purosangue and discontinue the Shooting Brake type of Ferrari.
I'm not sure the V12 Lusso will be an "investment", but it is certainly FAR more desirable than the V8.
I won’t sell my V12 Lusso for a long time, as I don’t want a SUV and the only other sporty performance coupe with a 12 is the Bentley, just not the same. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
The way the world has changed since Covid has for me and many others brought about a re-alignment of values and priorities which to me means I must use my Ferrari as much as possible, stop worrying about mileage, stop worrying about depreciation and stop worrying about whether I qualify for the next 'Special Variant' which will probably be no more Special or rare than the last. The V12 Lusso wraps so much up into one car IMO it is Special
the lusso is my first ferrari, i will likely never sell it as its totally unique. aston's shooting brake doesnt have rear seats
The V12 Lusso is in no way any type of investment....I'll keep mine for a very long time though as I have no interest in the SUV unless it comes with an NA V12....which is doubtful....
I was mentioning the Lusso V12 as an investment compared to the Lusso V8. But for sur the Lusso -whatever the engine- will not be any kind of real investment. Maybe the SUV will make the value of the Lusso stable and not decrease that much.
From the annual reports, we have the following hard data; FF production 2011 500 2012 1,061 2013 436 2014 394 2015 323 2016 130 (estimate) total 2,844 V12 Lusso production 2016 264 (estimate) 2017 936 2018 400 (estimate) 2019 400 (estimate) 2020 200 (estimate) total 2,200 (estimate) The 2016 production numbes for FF and V12 Lusso are a guesstimate as we have total V12 GT production for the year (394 units) but the annual report states that both FF and Lusso were produced and sold in 2016 so I've assumed a 1/3:2/3 split. From the 2018 annual report, Ferrari stopped disclosing their production breakdown. If we also assume that the V12 Lusso followed the same production pattern as the FF then it's probably fair to assume that 400 were made in each of 2018 and 2019 and maybe half that in the COVID/run-out year of 2020. So at a guess, Ferrari will have made c.2,200 V12 Lussos by the time production ceases.
No it doesn’t. The annual report data for V8 GT cars mixes the Lusso with the Cali so you can’t work out how many Lusso T were produced.
Thanks for your confirmation. 1100-1400 Lusso T would be a wise guess, its life cycle was shorter than the V12 and the demand was a bit lower.
Still difficult to compare precisely as the 488 and 812 are still being produced (Pista, Pista Spider, 812SF and 812GTS). By the way, the number of Lusso is way less that the number of 488.
I take back what I said about the Lusso V12 not being and investment. I was wrong. It’s an investment in my mental well being and the return is sure to pay off for years to come Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Whatever the production numbers, anybody who thinks a Lusso to be any kind an investment should probably avoid working in financial advice. If you do think so, you had better stop putting miles on your V12 right now. As I have a V8, which some posters seem to wishing to depreciate as fast as possible, I don’t have to worry and am planning to put on another 500 miles, through the rear wheels, this weekend. WOO HOO !