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Rebuilt Title F430

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  1. fungui

    fungui Rookie

    Jul 20, 2020
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    I'm wondering what everyone thinks about the pricing of rebuilt f430's. I am taking a look at an 06 Friday that has a pretty crazy story for why it has a rebuilt title (stolen by a mechanic at a Ferrari dealer). They say there was only body light damage but that the insurance company still decided to salvage. I'll be asking to see receipts on the work that was done to get it rebuilt, but was wondering what people thought about rebuilt titles?

    I am in the market for a 360 or an F430, and don't plan on selling it so I'm not really worried about resale issues. Still, they have it listed way too high ($89k) so I'd come in at a lower price. I feel like a good buying price for a clean title 05/06 F430 in the 25k mile range is $82k, so for a rebuilt I can't imagine paying more than $70k.

    The car has OEM headers so I'd use that as leverage, I'll want to replace them immediately.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. APA#1

    APA#1 Formula 3

    Nov 5, 2003
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    I would think a LOT less than that. Ask to see prior pictures of the damage, google the VIN.
     
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  3. SpencerMarks

    SpencerMarks Karting

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    Yeah that’s an absolutely ridiculous price.
     
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  4. fungui

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    It has been listed for 159 days, on consignment. I'm told the owner is ready to sell.
     
  5. Manda racing

    Manda racing Formula 3

    Feb 25, 2015
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    Rebuilt means it *may* get a clean title when it changes hands— which means it’s possible to finance.

    fwiw
     
  6. jag-oo-r

    jag-oo-r Formula Junior
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    I think your $70k number is too high. Personally. Don;t misunderstand; I'd LOVE to see you single-handedly begin the $$ appreciation $$ of the F430 by paying that much for an R-titled car. But as a friend (are we friends here? ;-) ) I'd tell you that's too much.

    It's less about the damage that the car experienced, because ALL damage can be repaired. If it was repaired correctly I'd have no qualms over that. It's more about the actual value of the car. If we define value as "the amount the car would sell for today", I think you'd take a really, really big hit.

    However: if you never intend to sell, and this is the nicest car within your self-imposed-budget, then maybe value is defined another way for you.
     
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  7. fungui

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    You are definitely my friend now! Thank you for your input; I haven't made any offers and knew it would be good to check here first. It seems the general rule of thumb is 30%; would you say that holds true? If so, $57,400 would be the proper starting place (assuming my $82k sale price is accurate for a similar clean title).
     
  8. fungui

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    For those that are wondering, I'm looking for a rebuilt f1 because I'd like to order a 6-spd conversion kit and perform the conversion myself. If I don't find something suitable, I can go to the mid 80's on a clean title. I just like looking for deals :p.
     
  9. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    30 to 40 percent off of what the clean no story equivalent is
     
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  10. BruceC

    BruceC Formula Junior

    Apr 26, 2018
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    I would think the rebuilt title puts you in a massive bargaining position. Exotics not having a clean Carfax generally seem to suffer quite a bit on resale value and turn over much more slowly even when the damage hasn't been that significant. If you do a little research, you'll find a fair amount of information on "diminished value" claims against insurance companies trying to get by with offering to just pay for repairs when it's clear that an equivalent car with a clean Carfax will always be the first choice vs. one with a damage report. Here's one of the better articles > https://www.sportscarmarket.com/columns/legal-files/the-stealth-claim

    That said, there's still a few other areas of concern to look closely at on a used 430 besides OEM headers that would make a PPI a good first step that could give you even more bargaining power .....or convince you to look elsewhere.
     
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  11. fungui

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    Great link, thank you for sharing it. My plan right now is to take a look, gauge how reasonable the seller is willing to be on price, and then set up a ppi if the stars align.
     
  12. VAF84

    VAF84 Formula 3
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    Too many good options in the mid $80’s range to go with a rebuilt title with potential unknown issues. I wouldn’t pay more than $65-70k for a rebuilt titled F430 in a condition that appears comparable to market priced clean title. Wholesale on clean title is roughly $65k.

    Regardless, good luck!
     
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  13. S F

    S F Karting

    May 13, 2016
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    If there is anything consistent about rebuilt title cars, it is that the seller's reason for the salvage title is drastically understated.

    I'm not saying I would never buy one, but I would want to see photos of the damage along with photos of the repair to consider the car.
     
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  14. fungui

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    This is kind of what I was worried about. Hopefully, they have plenty of documentation. The place it is on consignment at is kind of wishy-washy on responding, so it is becoming a bit of a turn-off.
     

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