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Harry Metcalfe twitter convo re: Ferrari Dino v6 and Roma and the Maserati MC20

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  1. OmbryAmbry

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    #1 OmbryAmbry, Aug 7, 2020
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    Basically:

    Harry Metcalfe was on Twitter this morning in a conversation that was basically:

    • V6 Ferrari "Dino" was cancelled due to it potentially ending their EU emissions exemptions from increased sales volumes.

    • That car has become the Maserati MC20

    • The Ferrari Roma was originally the Maserati Alfieri.
    Pictures were then posted of the Alfieri prototype and the Roma and there is a very big resemblance.

    Wanted to share some info. Speculation normally isn't worth much but Metcalfe is a classy guy and wouldn't idly spread FUD.



     
  2. day355

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    Everything is correct.
    In a recent past , California was born as a Maserati
     
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  3. ttforcefed

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    california portofio roma - all maseratis
     
  4. OmbryAmbry

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    I find it funny how Maserati made the big to do about "no more Ferrari based engines" and here we are.
     
  5. paulchua

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    #5 paulchua, Sep 8, 2020
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    Fiat owned 49% of Maser from 1989-1992, then 100% of it in 1993-1997 then again in 2006-present

    Ferrari (itself owned Fiat) - bought 50% of Maserati in 1997 and then two years later bought 100% of Maserati.

    So between 1997-2005, Ferrari owned controlling interest in Maserati. That's why dealerships had Ferrari/Maserati under one roof. (remember that?)
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    It should come as no surprise, then my favorite Maserati models are the ones that came when the house of Maserati was Enzo's adopted family.
    • 3200 GT/4200 GT (Known as Coupe' here)
    • MC12 (Enzo Variant)
    • QP V
    • GranTurismo/GranCabrio

    I still consider these more Ferrari lite, then Maserati plus. I would be proud to own any of these, along with the Cali/Roma. Afterall they all (sans 3200) have the beating heart of a Maranello forged soul. Ferrari to me is foremost the engine after all.

    Announced to regrettable fanfare, not excitement - you're confusing it with the push for a recent electrical overhaul. If anything, the most exciting recent news is the Trofeo level coming to the Ghibli and QP.

    As for his speculation, you do know there is a V6 Hybrid already making the rounds in Maranello? That Ferrari had decided long ago to go over the 10,000 cap?

    @OmbryAmbry you seem to enjoy doing a lot of 'negging' around here.
     
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  6. boxerman

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    Whether badged as a Ferrari Maserati or Alfa what counts is what the car is. If the MC20 is a stylish light Cf tubed car with proper suspension a arms not struts etc.I'm happy. Ie what the 4c should have been.

    If ferrari developed it mechanicaly then its probably good, maybe not having the ferrari badge means a car can be more pure/focussed. The Dino wasnt badged a ferrai either. Who cares about the badge. In fact the Ferrari badge carries negative stigma and living up to the badge probably means a car has excess frippery, sometimes less is more.

    I see the v8 Ghibli and Quatroporte now claim ferrari v8 power, were those not always ferrai motors/blocks.
     
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    Just saw the MC 20 reveal. CF tub but Oh lardy +3200lbs and Im assuming thats the usual FCA dry weight, why bother with CF.
    They called it a "race car for the road", then went on to say its uncompromized which sounded exciting untill they went on to say uncompromized means it has a comfortable and great interior and good ride for the road so in other words another compromised sportscar/Gt.
     
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    I fear like all Maserati cars since the 1980's it will start to fall apart in 5 years. Nice looking cars for sure..but they rapidly turn into money sucking crap cans.
     
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    I did like the prior gen Quatroporte in auto 2005ish. Really nice design, 430 motor and with At worked well, plus they really handles nicely. But yeah I hear they suck money.
    Biturbo probably the worst car made in the 80's, even worse than a TR8, but the 80s quatroporte is something special from that era, but yeah a crap can.

    Still its 2020 and if we can have great reliable alfas, maybe...nah youre probably right a tech laden masser is a going to be torture.
     
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    I can't speak of 80-90's Maserati, but my QP5 is 8 years old and has given me only minor problems that I've been able to sort out myself. I would say par for the course if you get any vintage Ferrari too.
     

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