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Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    For some people on this forum not agreeing with them is trolling.

    They have a hate list including Hamilton, Mercedes, Toto Wolff, Racing Point, Stroll father and son, etc ...
     
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  2. jgonzalesm6

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    Hey, I'll praise the guy when he does good....as well as some other FChatter's on here.

    If you have time, you can look thru the pages of a couple of highlights....there are few on merit.

    There are more negatives praises than positives ones from me.
     
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  3. Nuvolari

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    I think there are a handful off people here that offer praise when it is due and generally present a balanced opinion on Stroll's performances.

    It is unfortunate that there are a few here who will bash anything he does, will revel in the tiniest of mistakes, and will find reasons to critique otherwise fine performances. I do not put a lot of weight in the opinions of people that see universal fault or praise with anyone. That goes for sports people, politicians, or whomever.

    Let's not forget this is the Stroll thread. Drop the 'S' and there are a lot of those here.
     
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  4. 375+

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    . . . or realize that he just has a faster car. Tracing Point.
     
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  5. furoni

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    ..he is obviously foing better than in his first year, but his progress is very slow and he's still off the pace frlm a midfield driver. So not only is stroll a slow f1 driver, snd lacking skill, he's also an idiot amd a spoilt brat, and sucks big time
     
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  6. pilotoCS

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    Yeah, but other than that . . . .
     
  7. 375+

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    Easy Pedro:eek: we know that you don't have Alonso to kick around any more but next year . . .;)
     
  8. DF1

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    Shields up Mr Zulu :)
     
  9. DF1

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    For me its the lack of respect racer's like Ricci put out as he did in race 1 in Austria. His comments about Lance running both of them off the track have shown over time how little Lance impresses his fellow grid members. Max added to this recently. Thats PROFESSIONAL criticism not 'trolling' at all. If one here were to post that we are now trolls to what few dedicated supporters he has?

    I echo JGonzales6. There are posts that do reward good effort for Lance. There are plenty that do not and its not sheer numbers alone that form the opinion. Lance has almost 4 years in this series. When Ricci states things after experiencing a 'move' that has impact. Re-inforces Stroll lack of real development.
     
  10. 375+

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    +1 agree. In contrast, despite his failure to score a podium Nico Hulkenberg is well respected by his fellow drivers and by team principals.
     
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  11. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Given the lack of a podium, he does seem to have that respect. The 'buzz' around his return was interesting.
     
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  12. Nuvolari

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    I remember when Pedro Diniz came into F1 he was seen as nothing more than a rich kid playing racing driver. His prior racing CV was nothing stellar either but over time he came to be seen as a safe pair of hands and pretty quick from time to time. Not the kind of F1 driver most dream of but he took to F1 well and earned the respect of his peers.

    Personally I have not seen this arrogance and lack of respect with Stroll many people speak of. So many times reputations are myths that take hold for no real reason and never let go. I've seen careers end early and live way longer than they ever should based on reputations not founded on much. That said Stroll has a very unusual situation in that his Dad is chasing his own power play in the paddock giving him almost impossibly large shoes to fill. Strange situation the likes of which I never remember happening in recent times.
     
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  13. william

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    Well said.
    It's like being born in the Royal family, or if your father is Donald Trump.
    Are you going to throw it all away to be part of the crowd?
     
  14. furoni

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    Problem with stroll was his coments on how massa never helped him. It was a total lie and lack of respect. He's an ungratefull an uneducated brat...and helplessly slow.
     
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  15. DF1

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    I do not doubt Massa's response to Lance saying Massa did not help. They seemed to have a decent relationship and I dont recall public friction. If Lance lacked 'help' that is as much the team's problem as it is Massa. Just being around Massa, listening, watching was help. What did Lance expect? We do not know the generation of that comment.

    Take a look at the results that year. Was a decent year for Massa, Lance crashed many times or was out of the points etc. Not an easy year but he has only success in terms of competition against Sirotkin. That is all.

    Would other teams keep him employed if he was not of wealth. I think we know an answer. Thats reality not trolling. Red Bull would be a good standard on replacement of drivers not working well. They fired Kyvat not long after a podium I think. Lance has protection most drivers will never enjoy. So be it.
     
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  16. 375+

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    +1 well said
     
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  17. william

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    I have followed F1 long enough to have seen many "average" drivers kept on for a while because of their sponsors.
    The difference with Stroll is that his sponsor is his father; that irritates greatly the detractors; hence all the story about his persona, etc ...
    Stroll has become the hate figure on this forum, which is ridiculous.
     
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    I myself am GREATFUL for Lawrence Stroll.

    His son......not so much. Unfortunately, Lance comes with the "package."

    They kicked Ocon out of his seat for Lance and Racing Point went backwards that year in points compared to the previous year with Perez & Ocon.

    BTW, Lance went from a William's F1 car, to a Racing Point F1 car, then to a pink Mercedes F1 car....all getting faster & faster.
    Yet he scored his podium in the slowest of the 3 F1 cars......hmmm.
     
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  19. DF1

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    I have not posted hate about Stroll.
     
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  20. Bas

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    Apparently pointing out someone being wrong or disagreeing with them is considered hate now.

    If he wasn't so old I'd accuse him of being a millennial.
     
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    As pointed out to you several times already (but conveniently ignored), this really is the wrong place to hate someone because of their wealth...considering that on this forum, there is an awful lot of wealthy people.
     
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    arm photons!!!
     
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    Fire at will!!
     
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  25. Flavio_C

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    Diniz was a well mannered person, a true gentleman. His father was not an arrogant prick who wanted to buy the best team at any cost. His sponsors where suppliers of his family supermarket chain. He never demonstrated entitlement while in F1. So your comparison with Stroll is wrong.

    That being said, whoever has met Stroll and his father in person knows that Lance is not all that arrogant, in fact he is well mannered, the problem is indeed his father. Lawrence thinks he will be able to make Lance a chamipion on the basis of money (obviously) and shouting. So the result is that Stroll takes the toll.
     
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