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  1. Longstone Tyres

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  3. Longstone Tyres

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    Is it?

    Flippin heck, the caption says "Enzo Ferrari and Aurelio Lampredi discuss the 375MM Berlinetta"

    I must say i am impressed by the way you guys are able to tell exactly which car it is, However i am more impressed by who ever was able to lip read Enzo and Lampredi from a still photograph! It is clever to be able to tell that it is the 375 that they are discussing while looking at a 250
     
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    I love how the photo reveals the lack of luster & mirror-like finish of the paint on the freshly(?) built new car.
    If someone was to paint a car like that to similar authentic/correct, OEM appearance, the car, its owner and the painter would be ridiculed, no feature articles of it would be printed in glossy mags nor would it receive invites to top-tier shows...:(
     
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  5. Longstone Tyres

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    A rub with a duster,
    will bring back it's luster.

    It would be welcome at my gaff any day of the week.
     
  6. John Vardanian

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    Oddly enough, the 250MM cars rolled on 15-inch wheels.

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  7. Longstone Tyres

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    Ha Ha Ha! it just gets better doesn't it.

    Yep 5.00 X 15" RW2924 https://www.borrani.com/ferrari-wheels/250-mm.html

    On here i have listed the Cinturato CA67, as the best road tyre, which i would stand by. And it is currently the only period tyre, Being 1952.

    However does anyone know what size tyres were OE on a 250MM?
     
  8. miurasv

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    Ferrari web site says 6.00 - 16 all round.
    Dean Batchelor stated 5.50 - 16 F, 6.00 - 15 R as did the Tanner/Nye 6th edition.
    Leonardo Acerbi states 6.40 - 15 or 6.00 - 16 all round.
     
  9. Longstone Tyres

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    And here we are poo pooing Borrani's ability to specify the correct wheel.

    it seems that Ferrari were unable to fit the right wheel back in period.

    Would it be reasonable to guess that Ferrari did probably fit all these different sizes, depending on what track it was racing on?

    600-16 would be the tallest, however principally similar in diameter to a 6.40-15

    then a 5.50-16 should in theory be the same in diameter as a 6.00-15

    Interestingly within the talks with Pirelli there was some interest shown by Ferrari to have a 6.40-15 Stella Bianca made. We are testing the water with the 6.00-16 which is a fab tyre according to my mates that did he testing. I don't know if you saw on the Silverstone F1 when they had the lady singing t he nationa anthem she was standing next to the next new size 5.50-18 Stella Bianca that i should have soon for 1930s Alfa. Then hopefully next year we will have 5.50-16 & 6.50-16 Stella Bianca.

    Watch this space https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/pirelli-collezione/stella-bianca.html
     
  10. 246tasman

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    All the 250MM's I've looked at had 16 inch wheels and the larger brake drums used on all the drum brake 250GT's (some with vents, some without) which wouldn't fit inside 15" wheels.
    I think that most 225S's also had 16 inch wheels and the larger brake drums but I've seen one with smaller drums. Whether they were original to the car I don't know.
     
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    My apologies. There is a typo in my post #8 which I have corrected above. Dean Batchelor and the Tanner/Nye Ferrari 6th edition state the 250 MM rear wheels are 6.00 - 16, not 6.00 - 15.
     
  12. DWR46

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    What is missing from this discussion is that NOBODY has provided a legitimate period source. All the information posted so far is from secondary sources. So here goes, and it is not simple. Reviewing FACTORY BUILD SHEETS for 250 Mille Miglia's provides the following:

    Chronologically, as the cars were built, tire sizes are as follows:

    540x16
    550x16
    640x15
    600x16
    640x16
    640x15

    The most common size was 600x16. Please remember the Build Sheets are filled with errors and typos, so ANY of the listed sizes could be in error.

    So everybody was correct, both 15 and 16 inch wheels and a variety of tire sizes on 250 Mille Miglias.
     
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    Enzo has just said that he likes the big one he built for the Scuderia... it is the only way to explain that baffled expression on Lampredi's face: "Now... what did he just say?"
     
  14. Longstone Tyres

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    That is good news because we have got them on the shelf, and i'm sure you will find that they are the best tyre on the market in that size. we had a great time testing them on some 1950s cars.

    https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyres/600-16/600-16-pirelli-stella-bianca.html

    Soon to come 550-18 Stella Bianca for pre War Alfa (phwarr!)

    then next year hopefully 550-16 and 650-16.

    (I must say i am suprised to see the sizes 540-16 (could that have been 590-15?) and 640-16. They are not sizes i really come accross. Mind you that is Ferrari for you.
     

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