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Flavio Briatore in Hospital with Covid-19, condition "serious"

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  1. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

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    +1 the 'Karen' is Flavio and he is also a 'snowflake' for being unable to deal with a bit of restriction in his life lol. The world revolves around him and his ego like many others unable to relate to the rest of 'us'. He is hardly special at all. How many has he infected!!?? Im sure masks were a bit much for him - Does he subscribe to the 'it will disappear' mantra like others, gone like magic lol.

    From the article - He posted on Facebook: "My heart weeps to see an economy slaughtered by people who have never done anything in their lives." So limiting his nightclubs where viral spread happens yields that very Karen like response.
    Karen or not - I dont miss his presence in F1 at all.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. Flavio is living the life most of us can only dream about.

    I wish him a speedy recovery.
     
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    Really?

    Have you ever followed his unbelievably successful career? The guy is simply a marketing genius. On a Steve Jobs level. Whatever he touched turned to pure gold. He had the vision and the chutzpah and the intelligence to make it happen. First with the clothing line/stores in the US and then with Benetton where he snatched a very young and yet unproven MS from Jordan and turned him into a double WDC. Then he did it again with Alonso.

    If none of that makes him "hardly special" I wonder who in your book is special?
     
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    Apart from his external signs of wealth, what do you know about his private life? Neither do I Human quality is not measured solely on the basis of wealth or poverty. The only thing I know about him is that he imagined the Singapore crashgate in 2008 and that this one anecdote says a lot about the character.
     
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    It was a clever plot.

    And no, it did not rob Massa of his title. Massa did that all by himself with the many mistakes he made that year. He would be utterly undeserving had he won it.
     
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    The end justify the means ?
    Of course not!
     
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    I agree he is the ultimate sleazy...
     
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    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    How can anyone stand in judgement on someone, without knowing his life story, his career path, and his achievements ?
    Just by taking clues from the media soundbites?
     
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    I highly recommend the book "The Piranha Club - Power and Influence in Formula One". It might give you a bit of an idea how this game is being played and has been played for decades. By all the great team managers.
     
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    Bernie and Flavio are only attached by "Business".... but I guess in the end when you are a billionaire like Bernie - sleazy nasty folks flock to you... wanting $$$$$

    I've met both... I would have dinner with Bernie and you would have a great time... with Flavio... its all about names and what you can do for him... I know a couple of the Bennetton family... they are not that crazy about them. Luciano was the one who liked Flav.
     
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    But your reasoning is valid in both directions, you admire it without knowing it. He was convicted for Singapore 2008, that’s a fact.
     
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    MS was convicted for 1997, that's also a fact yet millions of people admire him.
     
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    Thank you,
    I realize now I am too naive.
     
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    you’re comparing a pilot, who in the heat of the moment decides to hit another with a team manager who premeditates a fake accident of one of his pilots in contempt of his life to win the other ?
    William will love this.
     
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    I will make an exception and answer one of your posts. Usually I avoid to; you are a polemist more than a genuine participant

    For me, Briatore is a lot more than the man behind the Singapore plot.
    He is a self-made man, who built a retail empire for the Benetton brand in North America.
    When Benetton bought Toleman, Luciano Benetton put him as principal of the F1 team.
    Flavio had absolutely no experience of motor racing, and the news was met with guffaws from the F1 fraternity
    Within a few years, and in spite of his lack of experience, Briatore turned the team around, recruited Micheal Schumacher who won 2 titles.
    When Benetton sold the team, the new owner, Renault, kept him as CEO, and a few years later, 2 more titles came with Fernando Alonso.
    Flavio Briatore is the architect of 4 WDCs, all obtained with a low-cost budget.
    I am not saying that all he did was above board, but that doesn't influence my opinion of him. He is a doer, not a talker.
     
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    Heat of the moment? MS has done this trick (as well as others like parking at Rascasse) before. Hardly a heat of the moment decision. Rather well calculated.

    Contempt of life is a gross exaggeration when you look at that "accident" Piquet Jr. put in scene. Very little risk involved in that.

    If you want to talk about risk then torpedoing Villeneuve carried a lot more risk than Piquet doing a spin deliberately.
     
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    Or as DF1 would put it: hardly special :p
     
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    Good for him. Dont miss him. F1 would have failed without him lol??????????????????????/ Really??????????
     
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    Well, Flavio is a colourful character, no doubt, but not necessarily a likeable character. If I had to hire a team manager, would I hire Flavio? His results say yes. But I wouldn´t trust him, and that´s a problem when doing business. I wouldn´t never know when he would try to roast the pit crew by removing a filter of the refueling machine, or hire a driver managed by himself, or crash a car intentionally. We should not forget also that his last years at Benetton and Renault were average.

    And if we have to judge him as a person... well, he´s not a gentleman, no doubt. He even refused to admit that he was the father of Heidi Klumm´s son to avoid paying the pension; that´s stingy!
     
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    To disagree with you is to be a polemicist? I am sad that you think that of me.
    Personally I appreciate some of your posts.

    Flavio is a brilliant man , No one can deny this but I do not feel in him great human values , I can be wrong of course.
     
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    Flavio did what he was paiid to do for a sport. He made his mark. Look at me im great is usually the reaction he seeks. In a public sport he fits there. I do not have to admire this to enjoy the sport, with or without Flavio. F1 has moved on. I never noticed he was gone lol. F1 never asked him back lol
     
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    Flavio is Larger than life character with some flaws but definitely worthy of having a movie made about him.
    Wishing him the best outcome.I just lost my brother in-law to this treacherous virus
     
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    And I state he is not so special to me and the world ends. He has an ego and it shows results and damage. Like all others in his league of supreme wealth and influence. Yes..........world turns. Not the first or last person in F1 like this, and why I do not hero worship anyone on the planet.
     
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    Sorry to hear this loss in your family. Very.

    Flavio has a story perfect for movies of course. Would not be surprised to see one at all..
     
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    If you are looking for great human values in F1, well, hmm, good luck. That probably ended when Stirling Moss left the sport.
     
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