Is there a trick to removing the 308 wheel well liner | FerrariChat

Is there a trick to removing the 308 wheel well liner

Discussion in '308/328' started by mr308gtb, Nov 22, 2020.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. mr308gtb

    mr308gtb Formula Junior

    Sep 12, 2004
    613
    Full Name:
    MeestahBig
    It's a 1977 US 308

    Is there a trick to removing the rear wheel well and not messing up or scratching the paint on the little underside lip of the wheel arch? I did okay, I think I made one small nik, but the paint there is a little fragile, maybe sitting over a little rust... is there a trick? or do I just more aggressively bend to avoid touching the painted surface?
     
  2. Nuvolari

    Nuvolari F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Sep 3, 2002
    6,395
    Toronto / SoCal
    Full Name:
    Rob C.
    Don’t be afraid to be a little aggressive with the wheel liner and bend it as needed. You want to avoid at all costs rubbing it against the edge of the wheel opening as the paint will always be fragile there regardless of age.
     
    absostone likes this.
  3. mr308gtb

    mr308gtb Formula Junior

    Sep 12, 2004
    613
    Full Name:
    MeestahBig
    Thanks Rob... I'm making progress... check out the picture. Decklid off, just took the airbox off this weekend... I'm going to rebuild my carbs, but seems like my fuel issue is downstream at the moment...
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  4. derekw

    derekw Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Sep 7, 2010
    1,520
    London, UK
    Full Name:
    Derek W
    My liners were a real buggar to get out and I was scared of damaging the old age-embrittled fibreglass. I guess you know to change all the fuel and coolant hoses while you have access. Is there any clever way to flush the tanks in-situ? Maybe dump the old fuel and fill with fuel with cleaning additive to sit a while and then flush? I was warned off using an ultrasonic cleaner as they loosen the lead plugs.
     
  5. Imatk

    Imatk Formula Junior

    May 6, 2007
    297
    I was able to get it out by kind of the opposite of what I thought I should be doing.

    Basically I pushed the bottom in, which enabled me to bend it out fairly easily.

    I HAD been trying to push the top in and pull it from the top but that just wasn't happening.

    Putting it BACK in was more of a pain that getting it out for me.
     
  6. bonneaud

    bonneaud Karting

    May 3, 2004
    84
     
  7. bonneaud

    bonneaud Karting

    May 3, 2004
    84
    Before bending and pulling the wheel well, apply drywall taping all around the cross section of the fender. You will not scratch anything...
     
  8. ferrariowner

    ferrariowner Formula 3

    Feb 21, 2014
    1,109
    Mansfield, TX
    Full Name:
    Ron
    Whatever method you use, a few curse words are usually required.
     
  9. mr308gtb

    mr308gtb Formula Junior

    Sep 12, 2004
    613
    Full Name:
    MeestahBig
    yeah, I thought about using some blue painters tape... will looking into drywall tape.

    I didn't want to pull off any paint... its not too brittle, but a little...
     
  10. Nuvolari

    Nuvolari F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Sep 3, 2002
    6,395
    Toronto / SoCal
    Full Name:
    Rob C.
    #10 Nuvolari, Nov 24, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2020
    What I like to do is have a shim available to me that can rest against the corner of the wheel well opening and can act as a 'rub point' for the wheel arch protecting it from contacting the paint. One of my favorite materials for this is the plastic from a windshield washer fluid jug. It is very thin and slippery and can be cut easily with scissors. A piece about the size of an envelope is all you should ever need.

    Tape is generally a bad idea because the paint around the edge can be very fragile and the likelihood of lifting paint is pretty high if you put tape on the edge. Painters tape has almost no abrasion resistance so putting it on the edge will rub off almost instantly. You need something with body but it also needs to be thin which is why I like using material from a plastic jug.
     
  11. mr308gtb

    mr308gtb Formula Junior

    Sep 12, 2004
    613
    Full Name:
    MeestahBig
    I very much appreciate everyone thoughts. Not really stressed about it, but not looking forward to jamming the thing back in!
     
  12. thorn

    thorn F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Aug 7, 2012
    3,322
    Tallahassee, FL
    Reinstallation: start with the top, push and rotate into place, then bend the bottom end around and in so that it goes past the lip and into place.
     
  13. kcabpilot

    kcabpilot Formula 3

    Apr 17, 2014
    1,527
    California SF bay area
    Full Name:
    Paul
    They may not all be the same but for me it seems that if I grab the forward lower corner where it screws onto the plate aft of the rocker, pull it aft and down the whole thing just pops right out.
     
    mike996 likes this.
  14. Glassman

    Glassman F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed Silver Subscribed

    This is the correct way.
     
  15. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Dec 6, 2002
    79,207
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    There's a rolling motion to the removal, clockwise from memory as posted above, but downward and rolling it rearward also works?

    Takes some fiddling but no real bending or nicks if done right..
     
  16. GordonC

    GordonC F1 Rookie
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Aug 28, 2005
    4,120
    Calgary, AB, Canada
    Full Name:
    Gordon
    I wonder if the shape changed at all through the years - for my 84 QV, there's no way the forward lower corner can pull aft - it's too deep behind the lip of the rocker, and really needs to be twisted and torqued and pried to get it to clear the rocker panel lip - after that, it will do the pull aft, down, and pop thing. I really hate those rear wheel well liners - this thread has reminded me that I'm going to modify them and fix them once and for all (since they're out right now for timing belts anyway).

    Gordon
     
  17. mike996

    mike996 F1 Veteran

    Jun 14, 2008
    6,687
    Full Name:
    Mike 996
    On my '89 328, it's as per Kcab stated and was actually pretty easy after I did it the first time and got a feel for it. My concern was about flexing/breaking the cover but turned out that flexing it sufficiently to remove/install was no problem and I didn't see any issue with possible scratching. I suppose the tolerances in the 'handmade' nature of the cars might make some wheel well covers a more difficult fit than others. ;)
     
  18. kcabpilot

    kcabpilot Formula 3

    Apr 17, 2014
    1,527
    California SF bay area
    Full Name:
    Paul
    Um yea, I guess I left that part out :)
     
    GordonC likes this.
  19. Icatto

    Icatto Rookie

    May 26, 2022
    11
    New Jersey
    Full Name:
    Alex
    Hi.
    Any chance anyone has done a video of this?
    I’ve been wrestling with it on my ‘86 328 and I can’t see how to clear the lip on the rocker panel.
    Maybe I’m just misunderstanding the instructions.
    Any help is appreciated.
    Thanks.
    -Alex-
     
  20. Nuvolari

    Nuvolari F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Sep 3, 2002
    6,395
    Toronto / SoCal
    Full Name:
    Rob C.
    Don't be afraid to aggressively bend or twist the liner to clear whatever is in your way. It is made of fiberglass and will make crackling sounds WAY before it ever breaks. Sometimes a little force is all that is necessary just be cautious not to nick a painted edge because the paint will flake off before you know what happened.
     
  21. Dockboy

    Dockboy Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    May 11, 2013
    330
    Maryland
    Passenger side

    -Remove all 6 bolts
    -Slightly rotate liner counterclockwise while pushing inward on lower front at rocker panel to allow clearing of the rocker panel flange
    -Once clear of the flange, rotate liner clockwise and it should come right out

    Reinstall by doing the same in reverse

    Drivers side the same only opposite clock rotations
     
  22. Imatk

    Imatk Formula Junior

    May 6, 2007
    297
    Yeah if you push the top of the liner toward the car (either side) so that the liner is going toward the engine you should be able to pull the liner down slightly.

    Once you do that then just pull the top of the liner toward you and out.

    I find it helpful to slightly push down on the top when pulling it out to clear that lip
     
  23. pedders

    pedders Karting

    Apr 25, 2010
    52
    Sorry for the thread hijack, but does anyone know what the original fixings for the liners would have been for a 79 (Euro) 308 GTB - mine has an assortment of hex head and posi head self tapping screws which doesn’t look right. Thank you.
     
  24. Imatk

    Imatk Formula Junior

    May 6, 2007
    297
    All of mine are phillips screws for the liner
     
  25. Anthony Rapuano

    Anthony Rapuano Karting

    Aug 16, 2022
    116
    CT
    Full Name:
    Anthony V Rapuano, Jr.
    Believe they were 10mm hex head machine screws, possibly smaller.
     

Share This Page