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  1. zarama

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    #1 zarama, Nov 26, 2020
    Looking to pick up a 2012 FF and thought I found one. It's a well spec car but higher milage, 37k miles. I read so much about the PTU problems with these cars I had the car inspected at the dealer and had them do a full inspection, the same one they need to do if I wanted to add the power train warranty. The car is currently out of warranty and was planning on adding the Power Train warranty for at least a year untill I felt more comfortable with the car.

    I got the report back and there are a couple concerns and one means it is not eligible for the warranty. There was a "speed sensor" fault in the transmission and it is a hard code that comes back as soon as you clear it. It does not show a fault on the dash, only when scanned with their computer.

    The second is a hard fault code to do with the front passenger magna ride suspension system. Once again they clear it and it comes right back and once again it's not on the dash.

    The transmission issue is obviously by bigger concern. First of all it mean that the car is ineligible for the power train warranty. Also I got a rough estimate not $10-15k cdn to do the repair. I was told they have to remove the transmission, open it up, replace the faulty sensor and then reinstall.

    I didn't fully look into the repair needed for the suspension, I don't know if it's simply a sensor that needs to be replaced or the whole strut assembly. The suspension seems to still be adjustable in sport more and shows no error messages.

    I was hoping someone with experience or knowledge of these problems could shine some light on it for me.

    Sorry for the very long winded post. Any input would be greatly appreciated.


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  2. ttforcefed

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    #2 ttforcefed, Nov 26, 2020
    the 3rd gear speed sensor issue is like 3k to fix via an independent. $700 for the part and about 17 hours of labor. No idea about the magna ride. id get a quote from an independent. cld make sense to have them fix the issues then bring it back to ferrari for the warranty

    sounds like a pass if you ask me.
     
  3. zarama

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    #3 zarama, Nov 26, 2020
    Hey TT, thanks for your thoughts, I really value your opinion on FF's as I have read many of your posts. Is the speed sensor always the third gear sensor? I'm located in an area with not too many indy options to do this work. Closest city that might have one is Montreal 2 hours away. I'm pretty disappointed about these issues as I was very excited about the car. Canadian stock of cars is drastically lower than the US, there is only about 10 for sale currently.

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  4. ANOpax

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    #4 ANOpax, Nov 26, 2020
    These are both significant issues that need to be addressed. I would suggest that you go back to the seller and ask them to rectify the problems before sale. If the seller won’t budge and the car is attractively priced already and you really want this particular car then maybe go 50:50 on the repair cost. Otherwise, walk away. There will always be another car (unless the spec is unusual).

    can you post photos and a description of the car? - we can tell you if it’s something special and worth pursuing or if it’s a dime a dozen car.
     
  5. zarama

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    #5 zarama, Nov 26, 2020
    Here you go.

    Rosso Maranello
    Vent seats
    Front lifter
    Power boot
    Front and rear camera
    And other nice cosmetic options
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  6. ttforcefed

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    #6 ttforcefed, Nov 26, 2020
    bringing a US car to canada is easy no? i sold my TDF to a guy in canada.
     
  7. zarama

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    #7 zarama, Nov 26, 2020
    Yes it is much easier now, this was originally a US car.

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  8. ttforcefed

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    #8 ttforcefed, Nov 26, 2020
    buy one from the USA! pass on this one.
     
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  9. ANOpax

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    #9 ANOpax, Nov 27, 2020
    The spec is nice but not that unusual so either the seller pays for the repairs or you walk. As ttforcefed says, you can import one from the US if choice in Canada is limited.
     
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  10. Akhil

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    #10 Akhil, Nov 27, 2020
    Do you know if the front lifter is working correctly? Pretty pricey repair.
     
  11. ANOpax

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    #11 ANOpax, Nov 27, 2020
    You’re right that the official Ferrari fix is pricey as they sell you an updated pump design and the associated wiring/software flash.

    However, there’s a cheap and easy fix for this if you go the independent route- it’s just a rubber O-ring seal replacement for the original lift pump.
     
  12. zarama

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    #12 zarama, Nov 28, 2020
    There is no issue with the lift system. It's only the adaptive suspension setting and even that seems to work fine

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  13. Bamsefar

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    #13 Bamsefar, Nov 28, 2020
    Front lifter - is not the lift on the FF all 4-wheels?
     
  14. Altoria F

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    #14 Altoria F, Nov 28, 2020
    Yes all 4 wheels, not only front on the FF.
     

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