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Rosso Scuderia mystery

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Randyslovis, Apr 14, 2015.

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  1. Randyslovis

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    #1 Randyslovis, Apr 14, 2015
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    My buddy recently traded his R. scuderia Italia in on a Speciale. The Speciale was also done in R. scuderia. The Speciale just arrived and he thought the reds were slightly different. He thought the Speciale was darker than his Italia. I thought different interior color and wheel color combined with NART livery were playing tricks on his eyes. Looking under the trunk however shows that the PPG paint codes are in fact different. The Italia had code 323 and Speciale 523. Both say Rosso scuderia. I know my Rosso corsa car has a paint code that is different from another Rosso corso that the factory also supplies. Understandably I therefore know same "name" can still not be same actual color.
    I would be curious if any Italia or Speciale owners would look under the hood of the cars and tell me what year of car they have and what paint code is specified. I am wondering if Speciale gets different R. scuderia in general, if NART livery changes which R. scuderia is used, or if for model year '15 Ferrari changed "formula" of paint they call R. Scuderia.
    I truly appreciate everyone's time in this seemingly silly/esoteric adventure of mine.
    Best
    Randy
     
  2. Alizzi

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    #2 Alizzi, Apr 14, 2015
    I applaud your friend for being part of the elite group of Rosso Scuderia club... When I'm a bit older and buy my own, hopefully I can get Rosso Scuderia! No one gets it and oh my, ROSSO CORSA IS SO CLICHE (Even though it looks amazing, but still :) )


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  3. dustman

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    #3 dustman, Apr 14, 2015
    I saw a scud and corsa Speciale next to each other a few weeks ago (both new)...damn, I loved scud color more in the Speciale.
     
  4. 720

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    #4 720, Apr 14, 2015
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    Interesting. Just to further add to the mystery I noticed in the owner's manual they show a sample of a sticker containing information on the original paint. The sticker in the owner's manual happens to show Rosso Scuderia and a paint code 323.

    My Speciale (Rosso Scuderia with NART stripe) should arrive at my dealer by the end of the month. I'll check the paint code :)
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  5. Randyslovis

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    #5 Randyslovis, Apr 15, 2015
    Thanks so much for looking and posting post delivery.
    Another buddy with R. scuderia Speciale delivered in March has sticker with NO paint code, just name. All so odd.
    Typical Ferrari!
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  6. Dadr

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    #6 Dadr, Apr 15, 2015
    Yep no number code just description....

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    #8 euro_king, Apr 21, 2015
    my old scuddy is Rosso Scuderia but when I opened the hood to check out the paint code is Rosso corsa. somebody in the paint department might drink to much italian wine when they put the stickers on
     
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    #9 720, Apr 21, 2015
    If someone at McLaren did this they would be tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. LOL


     
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    #10 Surfah, Apr 23, 2015

    Rofl lay off the chianti Antonio.
     
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    #11 PhilNotHill, Apr 23, 2015
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    Friend ordered his Italia in RS in 2012. Said that he was the first for that color Italia in Denver. He used to have a 360 in RC. Now he calls my RC 458 Spider "dull red." :D
     
  12. synchro

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    #12 synchro, Apr 24, 2015
    I'll bet the difference may be due to Zanasi being contracted by Ferrari to paint the out of range colors and Speciale paint that the factory robots don't do.
     
  13. Randyslovis

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    #13 Randyslovis, Apr 26, 2015
    R. scuderia is a standard color. It is done in house and there is no up charge for it.
    Additionally, I don't know if you have ever used one of the free lance touch up guys for any of your cars, but paint codes now allow perfect matches. I have had Mercedes metallic white as well as my R. corsa car "touched-up" from careless people walking by to road rash and repairs cannot be found in any light/condition. So, unlikely even if painted by a third party for colors not to match. No, it clearly states different red used on Speciale vs. coupe. (Code 323 vs 523) Only question is as I originally asked: model year change, Speciale specific, or dependent on NART stripe for R. scuderia to be different?
    Thanks for thoughts.
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    Randy
     
  14. FerrariFL

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    #14 FerrariFL, Feb 14, 2018
    Rosso Scud on speciale is a different paint code than regular itialia? if so, what is code?
     
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    #15 Atlantic, Dec 3, 2020
    My 2009 F430 paint code: ROSSO SCUDERIA FER. 323
     
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    #16 rotaryrocket7, Dec 3, 2020
    The have changed the RS color across time - it's become more orange in the last 25 years.
     
  17. LVP488

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    #17 LVP488, Dec 3, 2020
    Not sure about that, IIRC some of the first Challenge Stradale were painted RS and it was very orange.
     
  18. VelocityTexas

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    #18 VelocityTexas, Dec 3, 2020
    IIRC, Rosso Scuderia was developed as Rosso Corsa looked "wrong on TV" as darker than it should. Through testing Rosso Scuderia looked like Rosso Corsa on TV. Rosso Scuderia is the color the F1 cars run for this reason.
     
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    #19 rotaryrocket7, Dec 4, 2020
    I tried to find the source where I read this but couldn't. What I recall from it was that the F1 team started making the Scuderia color more orange in the early 2000's and that's the same Rosso Scuderia 323 color that we see from the 360's on. Originally like Velocity said they moved to the Rosso Scuderia because the Corsa didn't look right on color TV. Funny how TV changed things - didn't Bruce Mclaren choose Orange because it was slightly different hue when they still did Black and White broadcasts?
     
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    #20 italiafan, Dec 4, 2020
    Interestingly my ‘15 RC Speciale looks like a deeper red when right next to my friend’s ‘15 RC 458 Spider.
     
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    RS Stradale and RC 458s. In the light they are very different. Honestly after many RC cars I now greatly prefer RS.
     
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    #24 Eilig, Dec 4, 2020
    Much as I like this RS example, still like your Argento one better. :)
     
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