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Discussion in 'California/Portofino/Roma' started by Clipper49, Jun 10, 2017.

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  1. Clipper49

    Clipper49 Rookie

    Jun 10, 2017
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    Firstly hello to everyone, as you will see I'm a new member to this forum.

    I bought my first Ferrari about 3 months ago, its an early California in red with black leather. An absolutely lovely car.

    Anyway, it displayed the following fault codes about 4 weeks ago:
    - Engine control system failure
    - ESC system failure
    - Manettino failure
    - AVH system failure
    - Park off

    I switched off the engine and restarted it and everything was fine, then 2 weeks later the same again and once restarted it all cleared.

    Today the same faults again but they won't clear. I have seen an old post where is is suggested that this could be due to a low battery. I keep the car outside and use it every 1-2 weekends, I don't have a trickle charger. That said it has never struggled to start.

    Just wondered if anyone else has had the same, should I be looking at a new battery?
     
  2. SVCalifornia

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    These are classic signs of a low battery. Try using the maintainer plugged in tho it may not recondition the battery properly so a better charger unit may need to be used.

    A new battery won't stop this without a battery conditioner.

    SV
     
  3. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I echo what Keith said. Purchase or use your trickle charger, & see if that improves things. If not, battery is next thing to look at. Several recent posts mention how to use a multimeter (or some such gizmo, my memory is flagging) to test the battery. Or, have your dealer do it...T
     
  4. 4th_gear

    4th_gear F1 Rookie

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    Ditto.

    You need to use a proper battery tender and your battery may or may not require replacement. If you take your car to the dealer or an Interstate battery centre they can check the condition of the battery to see if it's damaged. A multimeter alone may not detect damaged batteries depending on how much damage has accumulated.

    Your battery may require reconditioning to desulphate the plates. Only the more advanced battery conditioners can do that. Battery specialists like Interstate battery centres and larger service shops also have heavy duty battery equipment that can quickly recondition and recharge your battery if it's only discharged and not damaged.

    I suggest you call ahead to inquire.
     
  5. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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  6. vjd3

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    If you are not waiting for a few seconds to hit the start button after turning the key to the on position, the car will throw all of those errors at you. There are 4-5 segments that will light up sequentially when you twist the key ... once they are lit and off the screen it's fine to hit the start button. If you have the lights on Auto, they are obscured by "dimming" on the TFT screen, at least they are in my car.
     
  7. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    ^ So, you turn the key, count- one one thousand, two one thousand - then hit the Start button? I assume you're waiting for the dashboard check lights to go off?
    T
     
  8. vjd3

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    That's correct ... check lights. I don't have the lights on auto so I can see them. The two times I twisted the key and hit the start button right away I got all those errors. Never seen them since.

    Ironically, I tried an FF the other day, hit start and got "Electrical system failure. Go to dealer." Since I was already AT the Ferrari dealer, I just shut down and restarted, no error, car ran fine.
     
  9. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Thanks. I got same message once. Was told it was battery.
    T
     
  10. Clipper49

    Clipper49 Rookie

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    Thanks for your help everyone, I charged the battery and after a couple of ignition cycles all the fails have gone. I will make sure to plug the car in when I'm not using it.
     
  11. Jahustle31

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    Hello everyone I am new here but I have similar issues. First thing is the AVH warning , follow by CST and START/STOP failure. I just purchased my 2011 California and I did a battery check and the test confirmed that the battery was no good. I changed the battery but the warnings still show after driving the car.

    Any suggestions?
     
  12. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Is it always on the tender when not in use? The OEM tenders have been known to go bad...T
     
  13. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota F1 Veteran

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    What battery are you using? Might be worth having your dealer clear the codes.

    Sent from my SM-G930F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
  14. Redneck Slim

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    Don't forget the proper starting procedure as mentioned above. Turn on the ignition,then wait for the dashboard lights to stabilize. That means the lights stop blinking,stay off,or stay on steadily. Then start the engine.
     
  15. DavidPutty

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    Every European machine I've owned over the last 25 years - from BMW cars/motorcycles to a 911 to a Cali T - behaves better when kept on a battery tender.
     
  16. alex

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    As others have mentioned, your car needs to be on a tender when not being driven. Even installing a new battery will not work unless it is plugged in, because the CPU is constantly in use, and the new battery will start to lose its charge too.
     
  17. Jahustle31

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    thank you all for the feedback. I just installed a new battery and the car is not on "tender" so I guess I need to purchase one. I guess the codes will need to be clear by the dealer along with the tender.
     
  18. w0rtw0rt

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    I actually just started dealing with the engine control failure, myself. Bought my California about 3 weeks ago. I bought an OBD2 reader and was able to diagnose the warning to a P0014 which indicates an issue with my B-side cam. It's outside the expected readings. Spoke with the dealer and it's usually due to oil needing changing and some of the buildup that occurs within.

    Best thing to do is grab an OBD2 reader to find out what is being triggered and speak with the dealer. I ended up buying this one:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XE8C74/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Anyways, I am keeping a running update in my own thread of these issues. The folks here and some of the older threads have been full of knowledge and help.
     
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  19. alex

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    Jay, you need a fully charged battery to operate the retractable roof. In the Spring our GFCI outlet popped, leaving our Cali essentially unplugged for about 3 days before we realized it. Right away we started having issues with the roof not opening properly. You need to use a tender at all times to avoid a lot of grief!
     
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  20. Jahustle31

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    thank you very much for your help. I ordered the tender and should arrive by Monday :).
     
  21. Jahustle31

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    I actually have one, I tried to run it but no codes so far.
     

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