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  1. miurasv

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    #751 miurasv, Dec 10, 2020
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    A pity the interior picture is from a S2 1964 style GTO. And there were only 36 250 GTOs. Yes, amateurs!
     
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    Suitcases, xxxl ones, please.
    Cash is king.

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    Some more serious metal there...a few cars over $1m. Interesting.
     
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    A worm and sector Cobra > 1 million? The GT350 "school" car does not appear to be a R model.
     
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    Do people call narrow body Cobras worm? Or is it due to the lower perf engine?
    I dont know enough about Cobras to have an opinion on whether that one should be $1m+, from my little understanding, that type of Cobra should be below $1m unless it has some amazing history which this one does not seem to have.
     
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    The first 75 or so cars were built with 260 engines, and the first 125 or so had worm & sector steering until the changeover to rack and pinion. The early cars are not as desirable unless a factory built comp car; independent comp. with good history; or perhaps the early Hugus built cars. Just my opinion, I am by no means a Cobra expert.
     
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    Ahh i thought they were called worm as opposed to a cobra because they are skinnier and less powerful like a worm vs a cobra :)

    Thanks for the lesson.
     
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    #763 miurasv, Feb 7, 2021
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    TheTFJJ video with the 3 GTO models, 250 GTO (3387GT), 288 GTO and 599 GTO at Joe Macari's Official Ferrari Service Centre in Wandsworth.

    Interesting that the gauges on 3387GT are a combination of Smiths and Veglia, including the Smiths tachometer.

     
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    Does anyone knows the chassis number of the 250 GTO that is on display at Ferrari Maranello Museum.
    Sadly, I cannot find it online.

    Thank you.
     
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    I came in late in appreciating the 250 GTO, your book recommendation helps. Thank you.
     
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    I wonder how it ended up at the Ferrari Maranello Museum. I assume the current owner is generous enough to loan it to Ferrari so that the public can see the "Ferrari of Ferraris"
     
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    We have a set of Borrani wheels in to rebuild for a 250 GTO and we think the 2 rears are completly original wheels. you can see the date code on them as 3/64 (March 1964)

    https://www.borrani.com/ferrari-wheels/250-gto.html

    The tyres on it are XWX with a 1985 date code and they look like they have hardly turned a wheel.

    Just looking at opur Borrani page for the GTO, it needs a little bit of fettling as it doesn't even list these special GTO tyres https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-car-tyres/ferrari/250-gto/215-70wr15-225-70wr15-pirelli-stelvio.html

    I'll get it sorted.
     
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    Did the wheels come attached to the car?
     
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    Yep he threw it in free. He is ever such a vnice chap
     
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    Chassis number?

    Can you show us the Boranni model markings of the wheels front and back?
     
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    These wheels have been rebuilt at some point. correct centres, but not original spokes.

    The rears are proper RW3808 https://www.borrani.com/ferrari-wheels/250-gto/1960-63-rw-3808.html However the rims have under gone several polishings over the years and ther is no longer any sign of the stampings on the outside flange, and just that date marking on the inside.

    The fronts don't have any date markings on the back and they are actually incorrect RW3801 wheels. You can barely read any of the marking s on one wheel, but the other one is a little better.

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    Will you be able to correctly re-stamp the wheels?

    250 GTO #3445 has RW 3801 wheels on the front. See here.
     
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    Hmm! I think that isn't quite right. I know some 250 GTO did end up with RW3801 on them, but that isn't what you will find on their original build sheets.

    Below is our updated Borrani 250 GTO page https://www.borrani.com/ferrari-wheels/250-gto.html

    It seems funny, because these wheels do have, what we currently consider, a hefty price tag on them now. But when they were current racing cars, they would be swapping wheels on a regular basis. Which is why we really liked seeing what we think are original rear wheels.

    Borrani will re stamp codes on wheels if need be, but it is also considered nice to leave an old worn stamping on there if they are still legiable.
     
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    #775 miurasv, Mar 18, 2021
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    May I ask which 250 GTO's chassis number build sheets you have that actually state the RW number of the Borranis fitted? Not saying that any of them don't state it but of the ones I've seen they only state Dunlop with the tyre sizes.

    Regarding the info on your web site, the rear wheels used on the Series 1 GTOs were the 6 1/2" wide RW 3715, not the 7 1/2" wide RW 3808, although some S1 cars will have been updated with the RW 3808s of the rears of the '64 S2 GTO as they became available.
     

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