Battery low, car doesn't start, tender not possible, what can I do?

The Braille I suggested is not a lithium, are they aware of that? It is just a very high quality AGM. That's why I suggested it.

If your OE battery has been drained to 10 or below, you will be insanely lucky if it has survived. 10 is low for any AGM but pretty much a kill for the crap quality OE battery. It could maybe drop to 9.8 or 9.5, but 10 is VERY low. It floats around 12.8-12.9 volts, so 10 volts is less than 10%.

My Lusso battery went to 10.7 volts due to an accidental disconnect of the charger, and it killed the battery. Could not charge higher than 12.6 volts and the car could only sit for less than 48 hours.

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Yes,page 174 in the USA manual. It is underneath a red "WARNING",and the text itself in all in red.

 

I find the wording interesting. the car can be can "jump started" but only by an authorized dealer. but (owner) Do not jump start vehicle. Kinda oxymoronic on Ferraris part IMO

All new cars with delicate electronics should avoid jump starting if possible. I'm sure Ferrari is trying to protect itself from cars coming in under warranty with fried electronics as a result of joe blow tow truck driver roadside antics.

 

Keep in mind that all of this manual has been translated from Italian by who knows whom. Don't expect precise language.

 

Very oxymoronic. I suppose that's why they removed it. It is not in the later 2020 manual.

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If you have an independent Ferrari/sports car specialist near you, get them to fit the battery you want, that's what I did on my F12 when Ferrari would only fit oem battery.

 

I don't currently own a Ferrari (pondering a buy), but I have owned virtually every other marque made including Astons, several Porsches, many BMW's, Merc's etc, plus all sorts of diesel trucks and over fifty motorcycles. I have never seen a battery specific to a car brand before - nor have I ever encountered a brand where the battery goes dead in ten days time unless tendered. So respectfully - tell me why you can only use specific batteries in a Ferrari? I'm most curious. And why do these cars stop cranking in a few days time? That can only be incredibly poor electrical drain if its the case. I'd like to learn - as I've never heard of this.

Duane

 

It is not because a Ferrari drains more, and it is because a Ferrari cannot use other batteries.

It is because Ferrari gives you the lowest quality battery possible to maximise revenue. And when they tell you that you cannot use other batteries, it's because they want to sell you the battery with the little horsey on it and add a 300% FAVT. They will try and tell you that the car is programmed to use the very specific battery in the car etc. and that only that battery will work. B.S. install any AGM and it will work - same goes for a lithium designed to replace an AGM. It is just Ferrari being Ferrari. It is no different than purchasing horsey wiper blades or brake pads with the little horsey on the box.

As much as I like my cars and enjoy all the fun things Ferrari has to offer, this thing always grinds my gears, and I feel satisfied when I find solutions to problems that bypass this idiocy.

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The (new) policy of Ferrari is to force the use of OEM parts, even (above all) if they are of lower quality.
Ferrari tries enforcing this policy not only against its customers but also against its dealers.
Our answer should be to resist as much as we can - which is easier with cars already out of warranty (I suspect the 7-year maintenance is also a way to increase the pressure from Ferrari, although its actual value is about seven free oil changes).

 

Thank you. That's what I thought - as long as you can fit a battery in the compartment size-wize, get the right terminals, and correct (or higher) amp rating then you are good to go on any car. I wouldn't tolerate a dead battery in 10 days from an OEM unit and would replace that with a Anti-Gravity lithium in short order and save 40 lb to boot.

Porsche (I currently own two) does similar and says the batteries MUST be reset by the Porsche Tech Computer when replaced, which is a bunch of crap - but makes everyone go to the dealer for a $ 400 battery instead of the $ 120 one at Batteries Plus. All the "reset" does in the Porsche is very slightly decrease the charging voltage for a new battery so there is slightly less drag on the Alternator which in turn gives a miniscule increase in fuel mileage. It's a racket.

When I had my Aston Martin, I noticed that a lot of the parts were rebranded Volvo, Jaguar or Ford components, and since i prefer to work on my own cars, I had great fun showing fellow Aston owners that the $ 267 turn signal flasher unit with the Aston Martin logo was exactly the same as the $ 23 one out of a Ford Focus, And the coil packs in the car were straight from Volvo - rebranded of course. These low volume builders don't usually make everything in house, so the fun is discovering the gotchas in the builds.

 

Wow, thanks for that information. My wife has a new Panamera and I read that when the battery is replaced, the Porsche dealer has to "code" it. They also require special software to reset the oil maintenance light. This is our first Porsche and to me they are like Apple, once you buy their product they want to own you.

 

I ended up calling the road assistance. They jumpstarted it.

They ran a test but I don't know what any of the values mean. The new battery is bought in summer.

Does it mean it is unusable?


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Yes that means unusable. 300 CCA and 9.6 volts equals a dead battery.

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Health. 18%? That doesn't sound good...T

 

I have no issues in replacing it. But at the same time I don't understand the reason behind. I drive the car at least once or twice every week. Battery is bought in June or July this year. Is it a faulty battery? Or is there something wrong with the car? I don't remember any issue with parasitic drain.

I got the car from service a few weeks ago. Isn't this something ferrari service should have spotted?

 

One would have hoped they tested for this, but you never know. I thought there was a recent thread here with a similar issue that was traced to bad battery connectors or some such, but my memory may be faulty...T

 

If you have an OE battery, you need to understand that twice a week is not enough, especially if those trips are short. I daily my Lusso, and that was not enough. As we have said several times, Ferrari batteries are of insanely poor quality. That is why I said to install either a Braille AGM or a Varta AGM. Your car is fine, Ferrari batteries are crap. There's nothing more to understand.

 

He has a new Odyssey. Something else may be wrong.

 

Well, I can never beat that.

I also like the Cali T HS I have a lot. The color, carbons, everything, for me it is a perfect car. I don't want this to ruin that experience.

The car is still under warranty.

I'm pointed to a non-ferrari workshop about 100km from where I live, which could install the braille AGM you mentioned or the antigravity. A good reason to drive

Can Ferrari complain that I installed another battery and void the warranty? Or not extend the warranty when the extension time comes because not all parts are original?

 

I have not heard about such a thing. If you replace AGM for AGM, there should not be an issue. Ferrari dealers do this all the time.

The Antigravity is a bit more tricky. Some dealers know and understand there is no issue, while others make a big song and dance about it. My dealer is fine with mine, but they won't do the actual install.

If you get an Antigravity, get the new 80Ah version of the H8. 80Ah lithium is a lot of starting power. Well over 1500 A cold.

But if your dealer is the kind that might cause a fuss, the Braille AGM is probably the better choice.

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If you have a fault with the car that is not connected to the battery then the warranty should cover it, that’s what I have been told re exhausts.

If you do change your battery to a different type which needs a different charger, then you should tell the service dept. when it goes for a service so they don’t hook it up to the wrong type of tender