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F8 or Evo rwd

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  1. Tsachi458

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    I have the 458 almost 6 years and I will never sell it but I want to renew white another car
    . I'm debating between f8 and evo rwd spider.
    I would love to hear what you think
    Tanks
     
  2. Chasing Ferrari

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    It's time to try something else
    Just like I just switched from a Huracan
    The V10 is amazing


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  3. Jo Sta7

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    Both values appear to be holding well. Buy the Huracan. It’s cheaper. If you love it, keep it, if you don’t trade it against an F8.
     
  4. Coincid

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    #4 Coincid, Jan 2, 2021
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    During the time I owned the F8, I had a 3 day loan of the EVO RWD. The cars could not be more divergent in their driving dynamics and personalities. I posted a relatively thorough review of my impressions of the F8. Here are my thoughts after driving the EVO RWD:

    The evolutionary trend of super cars has witnessed a shift to greater comfort, refinement, daily useability and modern amenities.. Emotion, unfortunately , has been the collateral damage to the grind of technological progress. Modern cars are faster, more objectively capable, yet the cars have replaced individual model personalities with a push towards conformity. For many car enthusiasts, this movement has been embraced with enthusiasm, while with others, not so much. The genesis and raison d'etre of high end sports cars was to create vehicles that ooze driver involvement and arouse the senses. Getting behind the wheel and starting the power plant would create a rush of excitement that signalled the commencement of a memorable journey.

    This preamble is especially relevant in discussing the EVO RWD. Lamborghini has created a distinctive marque as a purveyor of uniquely and unmistakable aesthetically stunning or at the very least, singularly provocative designs, with driving dynamics to match. However, the latest V10 models, especially the 610-4 and perhaps to a lesser extent, the 580-2 and EVO AWD, have epitomized the modern trend discussed above which while attracting new adherents to the brand, have been proved disconcerting to devotees. Within a few moments of driving the EVO RWD, I was stunned at the dramatic difference of this car to the EVO AWD. While the AWD was extremely capable, fast, with precise handling and tenacious grip, it is in essence a tamer Performante. The RWD is a completely different animal. Think of it as the younger sibling of the Performante. Not nearly as accomplished and mature, but with a huge personality, boisterous and the life of the party. The RWD is all about thrills, and excitement. Driving it with gusto is invigorating , exhilirating and adrenaline inducing. There is the absence of adaptive dampers, LDS and the brakes are steel. Yet, the suspension, which is firm, provides tactile feedback to allow the driver to experience exactly what the road surface has to offer. The braking is linear, smoothly modulating to the driver's command.The steering, at higher speeds ,is direct and uncannily weighted so that it is neither heavy nor too light.Point the car in the intended direction and it will obey like a military trained German Shepherd. And then there is the SOUND. It has gravitas, plays at high SPLs with a baritone authority. It is an aural symphony with a melifluous sound unmatched by any other current car. To fully appreciate this quality, revs need to be kept at 4-5K. For those who wish to calm the beast, earlier shifting will accompish that goal. Downshifting results in a fireworks display of pops. As for sound volume, imagine a potentiometer that controls sound pressure levels with demarkations from 0-10 ( being the loudest). The 720S would be a 3. the F8 a 6. The EVO RWD is an 11.

    The RWD is alive, unfiltered and yet still civilized if you wish it to be. Driving in STRADA in auto mode will turn this tiger into a domestic house cat. Appropriate when driving in heavy traffic or when warming up the engine.Otherwise, you should be sentenced to prison with hard labor, if this car is not driven in Sport or RACE - manual. Technically the RWD is not as capable as the AWD. Upon launch , the rear wheels will spin and the rear end will become skittish and squirrelly. It will at times, slightly stutter upon take off but will quickly recover. Grip at high speeds and during hard cornering will have a slight tendency to slide.It will not be the quickest around a track nor will it set new records in any drag race. But the overwheling glory of this car is the fun factor. It is so supremely engaging and compelling , that it takes the driving experience to an exalted level. Hairs on the back of your neck will stand at attention and goose bumps will trickle down the spine as you gasp for breath and an ear to ear grin appears on your face.
     
  5. Coincid

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    The EVO RWD is lower priced than any of its competitors and by a significant margin.
     
  6. Tsachi458

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    I really enjoyed reading your
    So in the end what would you choose?
     
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  7. XSpeed

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    Yes, sound is there. Other than that EVO RWD does not come close to F8 at all.

    It is not superior to EVO AWD neither. Just cheaper. That's why many like it a lot. It is good price for the value compared to what Ferrari is doing.
     
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  8. Coincid

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    Depends upon your preferences. The F8 is highly accomplished on all parameters of performance. Its excellences far outweigh any of its weaknesses. However, if engine sound is a huge priority, the F8 will prove disappointing while the EVO RWD will send you into nirvana. If blistering speed, is highly valued, the F8 will not disappoint. Aesthetics is very personal. I find the appearance of both cars to fulfill the mandate of what a super car should be but with starkly divering approaches. Driving the F8 exudes confidence and predictability since it is exceptionally capable. The EVO requires more attention since it is so playful. As a value proposition, the EVO wins without hesitation since it is at least $125K less expensive. With the difference you can purchase a nice daily driver.

    I had the F8 for a couple of months prior to testing the EVO. I was highly enamored with it. Overall, I had few quibbles. Even the sound , while not exceptional, did little to diminish my enjoyment of the car. My wife was was also very taken by the F8. When I received the EVO, after five minutes of driving, both of us were amazed at the excitement the car engendered. My thoughts then began to wonder about a car that would synthesize the best qualities of both the EVO RWD and the F8. That is the time, I began to become serious about the 765LT which based upon the design ethos, could possibly be the car for which I have been longing. Based upon initial owner's reviews, this dream may become reality.
     
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  9. Chasing Ferrari

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    Why not a Pista?
     
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  10. Coincid

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    765 is more track oriented, faster, lighter, carbon fibre shell and should be unfiltered, rawer with elevated engine sound.

    While the Pista is more immersive than the F8, too many similarities between the 2. Same engine, body structure, etc. The 765 is a totally different creature.
     
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  11. wthensler

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    Both for me, in the Spider (Spyder) versions. F8 deposit in, and EVO RWD forthcoming.

    Today I sat in the EVO with the sport seats, made all the difference in the world for someone on the cusp height wise (I’m just under 6’).

    Quite happy with my choices.

    The 458 will remain - my fleet is taking shape..........
     
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  13. Jo Sta7

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    Pista may be more beautiful but 765 will demolish it in every performance aspect.
     
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  14. Condor Man

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    Wow! I really enjoyed reading this.

    You make me want to buy one.

    So what happened after the 3 day loan? Did you buy one?


    May the Horse be with you
     
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  15. Condor Man

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    New GT3 will be cheaper


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  16. Condor Man

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    I have been driving my GT4 quite a bit lately and today I took my Pista for a drive.

    I am not sure one needs a faster car than a Pista....???


    May the Horse be with you
     
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  17. Jo Sta7

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    Certainly one does not. However, that doesn’t mean the 765 wouldn’t make the Pista fall similarly flat.
     
  18. Coincid

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    I do not consider the Porsche a competitor. I compare Lamborghini to Ferrari and McLaren.
     
  19. Coincid

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    If I did not just receive my F8 2 weeks earlier I would have. I was still pleased with the F8. However, the unfiltered excitement driving the EVO caused me to contact my McLaren dealer to secure a 765 allocation.
     
  20. Coincid

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    The Pista , to my eyes, is the most attractive of all regular production Ferraris. I do not consider the 765 less visually appealing, it is simply a very different design aesthetic. The Pista, is elegant and exudes understated beauty with a sniff of a racer. The 765 exhibits a more exciting demeanor and is viscerally purposeful. It is dressed for business.
     
  21. Coincid

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    Does one NEED more power in a 710 HP super car? Perhaps not. But nothing about super cars involves need. It is all about want, desires and pushing the envelope. The 720S and F8 are the most powerful cars I have ever driven. They are blisteringly fast. Am I pleased that the 765 has 755 HP? You bet I am. Does anyone need a car to travel a 1/4 mile in less than 10 seconds or reach 60 mph is 2.5 seconds? Probably not but I relish the fact that it can.
     
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  22. ScrappyB

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    I thought you came from a Performante into an F8? Was the F8 choice a mistake or was the Evo that much more exciting than the Performante?
     
  23. Coincid

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    #23 Coincid, Jan 3, 2021
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    I went from the Performante to the F8. I was very pleased overall with the F8 and it is a superb performer on all levels. Is it superior to the Performante? No. Its driving dynamics are simply very different. The Performante provides an elevated sense of drama and interconnectiveness to the car. The engine sound and its attendant rawness felt through the chassis and seat creates an immersive attachment to the car that is exhilirating. The F8, by comparison, is more refined, the engine is highly subdued and has the affect of insulating its self from the driver. The F8 is blindingly fast but upon launch will exhibit wheel spin. The Performante, due to AWD, launches like a rocket ship which accounts for much quicker 0-60 times. While the suspension of the F8 is adequately firm, and does provide tactile feel to the driver, the Performante subjects the driver to all road surface imperfections with definitive clarity. They are both stellar performers that will appeal to enthusiasts with differing preferences and priorities. They are both so accomplished within their own realms of excellence, that super car aficionados are extremely fortunate to be offered such exalted alternatives.

    I would still choose the Performante over the EVO RWD. While it is not as entertaining, the Performante, is noticeably faster, objectively significantly more capable and the grip and control is confidence inspiring. The thrill factor is dialed down from a 10 to a 9 compared to the EVO RWD, but its overall performance more than compensates.

    My advice has constantly been to test drive, if possible, any car of interest prior to purchase. They are all special, but very distinct in their driving dynamics. The car of choice will be very subjective.
     
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  24. nickorette

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    STO sounds like a better fit for you?
     
  25. nickorette

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    Probably the last chance to get a NA V10 without GPF, I say go for it.
     
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