Whom will win the US election? | Page 45 | FerrariChat

Whom will win the US election?

Discussion in 'Australia' started by carl888, Nov 2, 2020.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

?

Who will win the US election?

  1. Biden

    25 vote(s)
    35.2%
  2. Trump

    33 vote(s)
    46.5%
  3. Moretti

    13 vote(s)
    18.3%
  1. psw

    psw Formula 3

    Nov 17, 2005
    1,874
    AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Peter
     
  2. spicedriver

    spicedriver F1 Rookie

    Feb 1, 2011
    3,859
  3. knocker

    knocker F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 10, 2017
    11,841
    Sydney Aus
    Full Name:
    Adrian
  4. FazzerPorscheman

    FazzerPorscheman F1 World Champ

    Jul 28, 2010
    14,996
    Piz Gloria
    Full Name:
    EnzoFerdinand
    Hasn't this Thread already been answered?
     
    kerrari likes this.
  5. knocker

    knocker F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 10, 2017
    11,841
    Sydney Aus
    Full Name:
    Adrian
    Surely
     
  6. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    Depends on your point of view
     
  7. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    Biden's 306 Electoral College votes matched the total won by Trump in 2016, his pathway to victory was smaller.

    Trump's 2016 victory came from a combined 77,000 votes in the swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Biden's 2020 win came as a result of a combined 45,000 votes in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin.

    In other words, if merely 45,000 votes in those three states went for Trump, there would have been a tie in the Electoral College, likely resulting in a Trump win.
     
  8. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    Nothing to see here

     
  9. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Jun 2, 2004
    25,691
    Sydney,Australia
    Full Name:
    Greg
  10. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
  11. knocker

    knocker F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 10, 2017
    11,841
    Sydney Aus
    Full Name:
    Adrian
    365GTC/4 and greg246 like this.
  12. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2004
    23,502
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    That’s the way the system works - win some some ‘big EC states’ and you’re in. Pennsylvania was the key; Arizona and Georgia were bonuses for Biden.
     
  13. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    No wonder election fraud is so big on Trump's agenda if all it takes is 45000 votes.

    I wonder how many ballots were in those suitcases.
     
    Steve355F1 likes this.
  14. 365GTC/4

    365GTC/4 Formula 3

    Apr 7, 2005
    2,318
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    knocker likes this.
  15. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2004
    23,502
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    Nothing to do with fraud - just the way the system works, especially since there are rarely more than 2 significant parties, and it’s pretty much first past the post. Trump’s win in 2016 was courtesy of FL (1.3% winning margin for 29 electoral votes; Penn 1.2 for 20 - and since Biden won this with a margin of 1.3 there’s a swing of 2.5% away from Trump you could definitely argue the EC is doing its job; Wisconsin 1% for 10 votes and Michigan o.3% for 16 votes (another significant Biden win in 2020 with a swing away from 2016 Trump of 3.1%).

    If it was fair for Trump to win on those margins in 2016, why is it unfair for Biden to win on similar or better margins? Bidens lowest winning margin of the swings states was 0.7%.
     
    psw likes this.
  16. Ianjoub

    Ianjoub Formula Junior

    Dec 22, 2019
    901
    Homosassa, FL USA
    Full Name:
    Ian Joubert
    You sound like an expert :D
     
  17. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Aug 26, 2011
    16,345
    Adelaide, South Aust
    Full Name:
    Steve
    I have no issue with Biden winning on similar or better margins.

    What I do have an issue with are the - still unexplained - massive spikes in Biden’s vote in the middle of the night in the crucial states.
     
  18. Ianjoub

    Ianjoub Formula Junior

    Dec 22, 2019
    901
    Homosassa, FL USA
    Full Name:
    Ian Joubert
    What do you mean, nothing to do with fraud. There are videos of people pulling out BOXES of ballots after counting was supposed to have stopped and observers were sent home. These invariably were close to 100% Biden votes. There is evidence that votes for Trump were counted as votes for Biden in the Dominion software. That sort of fraud counts for enough votes from people to swing the electoral college votes.
     
    Steve355F1 likes this.
  19. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2004
    23,502
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    Well there were no “massive spikes” in the overall margins so what does that tell you? Massive spikes occur in counting when the boxes from different booths arrive - there would have been massive spikes in the count for Republicans when a rural booth box arrived (since the US rural votes overwhelmingly R and cities overwhelmingly D - even in states like Alabama - take a look at the results maps) but nobody mentioned that...
    People really need to get involved, or educate themselves, with how systems work and forget the conspiracy theories.
    Republicans in the runup tp the election controlled most of the state legislations (and their courts), plus the Senate, plus have a ‘supposed’ majority on the SCOTUS (not that I accept supreme court judges are in the pocket of any party) and yet still NOT ONE SINGLE legal challenge was made by the Republicans - same as Trump himself, there were lots of Tweets, bluster, faked, or outdated or wrongly attributed videos, accusations etc, but not 1 single properly made legal challenge.
    Trump lost the same way he won in 2016 - them’s the breaks...
     
    Hocakes and psw like this.
  20. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 7, 2006
    77,310
    Wurundjeri man.
    Full Name:
    Arvin Grajau
    Take no notice its our residential "so bitter greenie" who has a dislike for anyone who is successful be it in business , society or in relationship.



    Most have her on ignore ( except Greg246.)............which is what I'm about to do.
     
  21. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2004
    23,502
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    No - there were videos of people pulling boxes around - you believe they contained fraudulent D ballots but not a single piece of evidence has been produced to back this up. They could have been boxes of tissues for all anyone knows!
     
    Hocakes and psw like this.
  22. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Aug 26, 2011
    16,345
    Adelaide, South Aust
    Full Name:
    Steve
    Karen, have you seen the graphs? Of course there are small spikes here or there as votes from various counties arrive.
    But what we saw in the early hours of the morning were huge, virtually instantaneous increases in Biden’s vote to the tune of tens of thousands.
    There is some footage from CNN where the presenters were analysing one state just at the right time and while they were talking the vote went from Biden many thousands behind to a few thousand in front literally in an instant.
    That cannot be explained away in the ways you mention, and it has never been properly explained. It’s just been swept under the carpet and ignored.
    You can bet your bottom dollar if it was the reverse and suddenly Trump went from behind to in front the media would have been screaming about it.

    I have to admit I am surprised that none of the legal challenges really went anywhere.
    I can’t understand why that is, but I don’t believe it’s due to “no evidence”.
     
  23. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    Omfg what's wrong with you?
     
  24. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    I've said this before.... You should stop
     
  25. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2004
    23,502
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    Translation: you don’t understand a word of what I said...
     
    DMWC likes this.

Share This Page