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2009-2011 versus 2012+ California DCT transmission reliability

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  1. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Oops, missed a figure!
    Us scientists ain't good with numbers! [emoji2]
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  2. Bill Phillips

    Bill Phillips Formula Junior

    Nov 4, 2019
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    Good to know. If you are the owner of the repair shop you mentioned, would you please pm me your company name and address, just in case I ever need it. Thanks.
     
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  3. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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  4. Bill Phillips

    Bill Phillips Formula Junior

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    Thanks, I’m in the New Orleans area.

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  5. Jhobrien

    Jhobrien Rookie

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    I guess it depends. Have a 2010 Cali with 25000 miles. DD, most expensive thing is new tires and sticky switches.

    Zero problems. Love the car to just zoom around the back roads.

    Enjoy


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  6. vjd3

    vjd3 F1 Rookie
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    Steve, can you elaborate on the oil leaks in the Cali T engines? Are they covered under the New Power warranty (which seems to exclude leaks)? And what is the typical repair cost?
     
  7. Akajak1

    Akajak1 Karting

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    Generally seals ?


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  8. SAFE4NOW

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    What I've seen :

    Headgaskets - covered
    Valve cover gaskets - not covered

    Both would be covered by warranty extension

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  9. blu mirabeau cali

    Oct 28, 2018
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    Sorry only just seen the replies. So I bought the car September 2018 and think I was 4th owner. Full main dealer service history and I’ve carried on the main agent history for the two services. Had a two year warranty that expired and I forgot to renew.

    The failure happened 2 months after the warranty expired.

    Ferrari dealer can’t explain why and have just said the diff has broken up and caused metal swarf to run through the box and oil galleries etc. The parts needed to rebuild it were no longer available and the only option was an exchange gearbox at uk £20,400 just for the gearbox plus labour and that was it.

    I’ve sourced a second hand box from a low mileage accident damaged car for £8500 and they are installing it for me
     
  10. D-Gunz

    D-Gunz Karting

    Apr 9, 2013
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    Everyone my Cali just grenaded today on my way to work in La Jolla. Lost reverse, 2nd, 4th and 6th gears. Does anyone know what this could be for our DCT? I'm going home to scan the codes with my x431 launch later tonight. car is stuck in my parking spot in my office. Car jus hit 49,000 miles - zero problems the past 3y of ownership until today :( Its my daily driver, zero racing, mostly city and light freeway commuting, zero abuse.
     
  11. alex

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    Dec 19, 2003
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    What year do you have?
     
  12. D-Gunz

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    2011 Cali ....
     
  13. D-Gunz

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    2011 Cali - did more diagnostics over the weekend; ran pressure PSI test on even and odd gears and looked at all the parameters with my x431 launch. Cleared out codes, now all than I'm getting is the pressure sensor is bad, since even gears only had 1 bar, vs even gears and system. My tech says I probably have a leak due to a bad gasket/seal which is why I can't hold pressure. Anyway going in for surgery later this week, hopefully this will be a sub $10k repair after I replace the speed sensor (not needed but why not!) and the pressure sensors. He's also replacing all the gaskets, seals.. and checking the "zip tie" thing since I don't know if that was fixed years ago.
     
  14. alex

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    Good luck and please keep us posted. DCT failure was a known issue, especially with the earlier Calis. We are carrying the extended warranty (we have a 2013) for this reason, and also in case of roof issues.
     
  15. Sunshine1

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    Please keep us informed (final diagnostics, costs, solution). I own a 2013 Cali30, DCT issues are relatively rare.
     
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  16. Sunshine1

    Sunshine1 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I also own a 2013 Cali30, the warranty ends at the end of this year. Not sure I will renew (not paying the warranty for a few years would pay for the DCT repairs and/or roof IF something was to happen, self-insured).
     
  17. alex

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    Another thing to keep an eye on is the motor mounts. They are filled with gel which degrades with time and heat. Our car was about 6 years old when we bought it and they needed replacement.
     
  18. D-Gunz

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    i replaced the motor mounts AND transmission mounts 18 months ago when my "headers" blew - they had to remove the huge metal frame to get to the headers (so while they were there it was an easy fix) - the headers btw will blow around 30k mileage at the collection point (blow = sprung a leak!); got them welded and fixed. They told me every 30k the headers on the calis need this work completed (don't go after market either = factory is the best choice)
     
  19. D-Gunz

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    towing to the shop end of this week; as of now we think its the pressure sensors, and bad gaskets/seals, and failed bearings. Should know more in a week - i'll keep everyone updated. I had 6 error codes . Early estimates are $5k - 19k depending if I need a new SAP, CCP etc.
     
  20. dera

    dera Formula Junior

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    I don't like to spend other peoples money, but wouldn't it make sense to just fix it all while you're in there? You don't want another 30 hour job if CCP fails 5 months later. Unless you are planning to flip it after fixing it.
     
  21. D-Gunz

    D-Gunz Karting

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    $19k max would be "worse " case scenario replacing everything! - will cross that bridge if I have to; as of now I plan on fixing EVERYTHING that is needed and every gasket/bearing that we have access to. I plan on daily driving this car to 100k+ miles / 7y which ever comes first! hopefully in 7y i'll have enough $ to buy a 296gtb or f8 after depreciation kicks in ;) - i definitely don't plan on "rebuilding" this POS every 8-10 yrs !!!!!
     
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  22. rubisco

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    Glad to see you're planning to put some serious miles on the car. I'm also curious (Cali T included) how these cars do past the 40-50k mark. What's yours currently at right now for mileage?
     
  23. D-Gunz

    D-Gunz Karting

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    49,400 getting towed tomorrow to the shop!!!
     
  24. D-Gunz

    D-Gunz Karting

    Apr 9, 2013
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    2011 had the heat exchanger moved to the rear behind the transmission - I saw this this morning when it was up on the rack!!! Same as the 2012-2014 cali30s
     
  25. D-Gunz

    D-Gunz Karting

    Apr 9, 2013
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    Good news: GP autoworks ran a further test that my x431 Launch tool could not do, and was able to run an actuator / valve "shake" procedure for 45m. After the codes were cleared; fluids checked, and the car ran perfect! I get my car back tomorrow. SO Excited.

    Apparently my speed sensor was already replaced a few year back! Transmission had already been upgraded before I bought my car 3y ago. If anything comes up I'll respond but hopefully this computer reset did the trick (he said "valves" can sometimes get stuck in DCT's which is news to me!)
     
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