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  1. craze

    craze Formula 3

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    So the last issue im trying to sort is squeeky windows mainly when going down

    Is this normal for these cars??

    I actually bought and replace the other door seals both sides (it has 2 felt parts to seal outside weather) and its made the noise worse

    Noise is also worse when door is shut

    Its driving me nuts
    Its definitely coming from the seals inner and outer (mainly outer) horizontal seals on the door skin
     
  2. craze

    craze Formula 3

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    Anyone have any idea? Is there any guides inside the door that could make this noise?
     
  3. mike32

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    Is it worth trying a bit of wd 40 to see if it sorts it
     
  4. flash32

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    I would try 3m dry type silicone

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  5. craze

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    The problem is it seems to be the horizontal seal, if i use wd40 it would make marks on the whole window

    There has to be a reason
    I dont think its normal

    However i dont understand why both windows do
    Is there an adjustment for glass that would fix this?
     
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  7. f355spider

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    Silicone spray is the usual fix. Lightly spray the rubber or felt seals, then wipe off the excess with a cloth. I had this issue crop up on an older 308 GTS and later 328 GTS on occasion. That was the fix recommended by a technician I spoke with. Worked like a charm.
     
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  8. flash32

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    As i mentioned above use the 3m dry type silicone .. the wet type will be a pain

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  9. mike32

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    What is dry silicon, new one on me
     
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    Not too bad. You wipe up the excess after application. Run the window down, then up, then down again, and on the return, I wipe the excess of the window perimeter. After that, it left only a minor trace when used, but wow, no noise and the windows moved way faster from reducing the friction
     
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  12. craze

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    I appreciate the help however id like to avoid the spray as I believe something is worn or out of adjustment
    Happy to replace parts just seems like a mystery
     
  13. flash32

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    Maybe if you post a video (youtube with link here) we can help further

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  15. Paul Kane

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    Wet Silicone spray worked for my squeaky windows and it increased the speed but I did have to wipe down a few times.


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  16. craze

    craze Formula 3

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    Here is a video
    Is this normal?

     
  17. f355spider

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    #17 f355spider, Mar 13, 2021
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    Silicone spray. I believe you are way over thinking this. There is little downside to trying this before anything else. Use regular silicone spray available at most hardware and autoparts stores, it maybe a bit messy to clean up. Or, seek out the dry silicone lube that may be less messy. Choice is yours.
     
  18. flash32

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    If you to try to see if the spray as many of us have recommended.. spray a little water in rubber and open window ..that should show if, at least one pass, it will work

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  19. flash32

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    That was so poorly written ; Sorry I have to stop writing on my phone and use the website

    What I was trying to say

    If you would like to try to see if what many of us have told you to do works, try putting a little water on rubber and try opening/closing window. I am thinking that, even if only for one open/close, the water will lubricate the window to show if our recommendations would work.
     
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  20. craze

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    I sprayed my whole window front and back with soapy water
    Marginal difference

    I also tried silicon spray and to stop even a little noise my window looks like 100 children sucked it
    Id like a proper solution as there is a reason for this

    No other car ive had needs to be sprayed
     
  21. flash32

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    #21 flash32, Mar 13, 2021
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    Sorry can't help any further without being in front of car .. if the nosie is coming from rubber not sure what else it can be except wrong part for rubber ( doubt it but worth mentioning)

    The thing is that both sides are doing the same thing ..changes that a track (inner workings) is the issue is unlikely


    I am assuming that you clean the rubber on both sizes (on inner wall facing window) . i know the outer ones are new



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  22. craze

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    Thanks silicon spray has now made the issue worse

    Im pulling these damn doors apart tonight and getting to the bottom of it

    Im sure there will be a fix
     
  23. cfensty

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    Interested. Have same issue and silicone didn’t work. Might try some gummi-pflege once I replace the battery.


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  24. craze

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    Im pretty sure its an adjustment as i notice when window starts to go down the whole window tilts a bit

    Im getting doors stripped shortly by a professional and will have it fixed
    Ill post back what the issue is
     
  25. hazimaw

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    Did the noise started after you tinted the windows?
    If yes, then clean your windows with ammonia free glass cleaner.

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