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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. jm2

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    Back to current design:
    2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Electric car analysis by Mr. Sketchmonkey
     
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  5. energy88

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    Ran across this old concept car today. Hope this is not a repost.

    The car is a 2008 CITROEN GT. IMHO, the car is beautiful except for the side view, which I won't post because I don't want to spoil the moment. Anybody who wants to see gross & gore can access the side view themselves.

    Also, look at those "aerodynamic" mirrors, which we have also been discussing lately.

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    I love the Ioniq.
     
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    The way the C8 rear end structure was done makes it just about impossible to do a really hi downforce rear wing that simply replaces the current rear spoler. There is absolutely no structure in that area to handle the loads.
     
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    The filter is stupid. My apologies. :oops:

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    Ian Callum seems like quite a pleasant chap, as can be seen in the vid I posted awhil back with Chris Harris, but $500K for a used car with a nice body kit and some mechanical upgrades?
    Then again someone just paid $69million for a digital file at Christies NFT auction...
     
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    I wonder if the filter would allow Ray ***eol, cited in another story about the car to join FChat.

    Yep, filter still works!
     
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    I did a little research and it makes a little more sense. There are only 29 (American) words which contain *** in them. 23 of those would be considered offensive. The other 6 are actually just 3 and their plurals, and they are 3 words no one would ever use, unless dealing with wharfages. The problem with the filter is the foreign words. Which is obviously a problem.
     
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    Somebody might like this. Your welcome :)

    Sesto S. G. Italy Ernesto Breda (Company) Breda 130 with Viberti bodywork 1954. Those look like Pirelli Stelvio's ...

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    Wharfages unaffected by the filter. It is really just a filter to eliminate foreign names :D
     
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    Hope the resident Big Wheel critic doesn't see that! :D
     
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    That looks almost cute in a wholesome cartoony sort of way. I like it! :)

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    So there you have it, the Ferrari Monza is the World's Most Beautiful Car.

    MARCH 11, 2021
    The Ferrari Monza SP1 Is the World’s Most Beautiful Car, According to Science
    The Golden Ratio determined that four Prancing Horses were among the world's 10 most attractive sports cars.
    By BRYAN HOOD



    Gearheads have been arguing about the most beautiful car since the automobile was first invented. Now they may finally have their answer.



    After analyzing nearly 200 performance vehicles, Carwow has named the 2019 Ferrari Monza SP1 the world’s most beautiful car. The determination was reached not through “expert” voting or other subjective criteria for that matter. Rather, the British car-selling platform applied the Golden Ratio to the vehicle’s design, which found the Italian marque’s retro futuristic speedster came closest to achieving the “perfect proportions.”





    Dating back more than 2,500 years, the Golden Ratio is a mathematical equation used to determine ideal proportions. Artists and designers as far back as Michelangelo have used the ratio to fine tune their work and make it more aesthetically pleasing.



    For the car website’s study, 14 points were mapped onto the front view of each car—including aspects like the headlights, windshield and side-view mirrors—measured the distance between each point and then fed those numbers into a computer. When all the results had been tabulated, it was Ferrari’s torpedo-like sports car that most closely followed the proportions of the Golden Ratio, with an alignment of 61.75 percent.

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    2019 Ferrari Monza SP1 Ferrari

    It’s easy to see why the computers were so swayed by the Monza SP1. Combining elements of the 750 Monza, 250 Testarosa and 166 MM, the limited-edition speedster is the rare vehicle that wouldn’t look out of place in the past or the future. With flowing lines from front to back, it’s clear that the open-top one-seater was designed for two things: going fast and turning heads.

    The Monza SP1 beat out a tough field for its title. To determine the most beautiful performance car, Carwow analyzed 197 performance sports cars released since 1950. Of those, the Monza was the only car from the last decade to crack a top 10 dominated by vehicles from the ‘60s and ‘70s. In second was the 1964 Ford GT40 (61.64 percent aligned to the golden ratio), which was followed by the 1967 Ferrari 330 GTC Speciale (61.15 percent), the 1974 Lotus Elite (60.07 percent) and 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO (59.95 percent). The 1967 Ferrari 330 P4 (58.65 percent) also featured in the top 10, pushing the automaker’s number of entries to four. When it comes to beautiful car design, the Golden Ratio suggests that no one does it quite like the Prancing Horse. We certainly can’t argue.


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    The Roadster that Made Mercedes-Benz
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    By the 1950s it was clear that Americans were in the mood for sporty cars with the right balance of style and performance. For many young people, single, married, or even with small children, a small two-seater presented a delightful relief from the lunking, heavy American cars that still seemed stuck in the 1940s. Among the many European car companies that were paying close attention to this growing market, Mercedes-Benz was poised with an offering that not only would captivate the hearts of Americans, but would also set a new world standard for sporting fun in an open two-seater car with plenty of style and performance to match.

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    Mercedes-Benz 190 SL of the W 121 series (1955-1963).

    Introduced at the 1954 New York Auto Show, the prototype 190SL was cleverly situated alongside the powerful and prestigious 300SL Gullwing. With such celebrated company the 190SL immediately struck a glamorous chord with all onlookers. Displaying all the characteristic quality, fit, and finish of the 300SL, the 190SL delivered in every respect. The motoring press showered the new 190SL with ample praise confirming this affordable convertible would surely lead the way to new markets in North America.

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    The Mercedes-Benz 300 SL (W 198 I) sits in pride of place on the stand of importer Max Hoffman during the “International Motor Sports Show” in New York, on February 6, 1954. However, just to its right sits the new 190SL.

    Principally motivated by U.S. distributor and marketing pioneer of European imports, Max Hoffman, the 190SL positioned Mercedes-Benz as a premier brand in the growing North American market. Strategically priced at around $4,000, the 190SL was almost half the price of the 300SL. This attractive value, coupled with irresistible looks and open cockpit driving, motivated nearly 26,000 buyers to purchase these sporting cars between 1955 and 1963. And while these numbers might seem modest in terms of modern car sales today, during this period, these important sales catapulted Mercedes-Benz into a larger market opportunity, one that would greatly advance their broader objectives far beyond the more costly and lower volume 300SL. Shortly after the first year of production, the public fell in love with the 190SL not just because of the fantastic looks and quality, the 1900-cc SOHC engine with twin Solex carburetors coupled to the 4-speed transmission, delivered spirited driving while returning admirable fuel economy.

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    The new 190SL sits in the Mercedes-Benz design studio next to several of its early concept models.

    Driving manners were also rewarding via double-wishbone coil spring front suspension and swing axle coil spring rear suspension. Attributed to the Mercedes-Benz engineer Rudolf Uhlenhaut, the term SL is generally regarded to mean Sport Light or Super Light, characterizing the nimble nature of these cars but also the sporting heritage that Uhlenhaut had so carefully crafted as part of the racing dominance Mercedes-Benz achieved as formidable motorsports competitors against Ferrari, Jaguar, and Aston Martin. Today, the 190SL remains an attractive and highly desirable classic very much for the same reasons experienced upon its launch; a comfortable sporty car blending elegant open motoring with easy to service mechanicals. Despite the 190SL being the modest lower priced sibling of the 300SL, over the past 60 years it has charmed its way into more celebrated collections in part because of its heritage to the 300SL.

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    Striking in every view, the 190SL immediately brings to mind the cavalier mid to late 1950s so fervently romanticized in movies, theater, and music of the period. Offered with a removable hardtop and custom-tailored luggage, the 190SL was more than transportation, it was a statement of carefree elegance without the opulence of stone mansions and tuxedoed butlers.
     
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    ARE DETROIT AUTOMAKER DESIGNERS DISCOURAGED FROM DRIVNG "FURRIN"N CARS TO WORK?
    My knowledge is several decades old so I have to ask. I moved out of the moor City in 1969 . I remember when I was there the word was "OK you can have a furrin' car but don't drive it to work' though I remember some engineers ,one of whom even had a Ferrari GTO, others had Porsche 904s, XKE but just didn't bring them to work. I was wondering if this is relaxed? I think they should encourage engineers and designers at the Detroit Big 3 to drive especially classics so they will know what a sports car or sports coupe is supposed to be like. I remember DeLorean was one who broke the rules, owning Maserati Ghibli. Of course, he was punished for a myriad of sins.
     
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    The hardtop with the gullwing doors was magnificent.

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    This is decades old. The employees can drive whatever they like, however some companies require non company built vehicles to park in separate parking lots. Nothing wrong with asking one to buy what they build/design/engineer.
     
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