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  1. tonino ct

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    Tonight i will send you more foto of the wire. I am curios to see if has a spade terminal.
     
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  2. Qavion

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    #27 Qavion, Mar 19, 2021
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    Thanks, Tony.

    This is quite confusing. Looking at photos of the temperature sender (P/N ferrari part 104628), it looks like the sender has a male spade connection.

    https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/part/ferrari/104628?id=82008

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    The wiring diagrams show these connectors like this. These are usually spade types.

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  3. flash32

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    This is a long shot

    Could it be that the wire shown (loose) was connected to the solenoid and then the normal factory spade connection plugged into that

    Have no clue why someone would want to tap into the solenoid ..but it makes a clean connection

    Screw loose connection to solenoid and then connect existing spade plug into that

    Just a guess not even a SWAG .. no science here


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  4. Qavion

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    Looks like it's not the oil temperature sensor connection. The zoom function of the wiring diagrams shows a circular plug (which matches the shape of the plug on the sender in the photograph)

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  5. flash32

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    I don't recall if the starter is always energized ..if it is maybe this was a way to have circuit to prelube engine before starting

    Push button ..wire from cockpit and connect to solenoid

    Maybe i am way out there

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    #31 Qavion, Mar 19, 2021
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    On the 360, there is always power on the big red wire (from the battery), but power only goes to the small white wire when you turn the key to start.

    I can't imagine what you would use a second wire on there for... unless you have a remote starter button for maintenance.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/312464207359?

     
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  7. flash32

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    Then maybe as i mentioned .. a previous owner wanted to crank engine without starting to pre lube engine ...

    Had it wired to a switch/button 12 v



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  8. Qavion

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    Sorry... misunderstood you.
     
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    NP

    OP should trace back wire and see where it goes ..

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  10. Qavion

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    Maybe he has a remote start switch and doesn't know it :D
     
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  11. tonino ct

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    Without taking the fuser off it is hard to figure it out, no sense trying to guess the problem. The solenoid only has one wire. And is black. The oil temp sensor is brown. This is the pic of my 360. Is located above the starter as described on treads
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    hope it helps. .

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  12. Qavion

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    So it is a strange kind of spade connector with no covering (unlike the image in the wiring diagrams). Perhaps there should be a rubber boot on that connection?

    Are they the same?

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    Do both halves have both male and female contacts? Is Steve's connector simply bent?
     
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  13. tonino ct

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    Hard to say. I don’t think is the oil sensor. The car will start even without the cable been attacked. I know it is a pain to remove the fuser but thats the omly option.
     
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  14. Qavion

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    Well, there's an easy way to check. With the plug removed, you'll either get full scale deflection on the gauge or no movement of the gauge with the car warming up.

    QUOTE="tonino ct, post: 147801131, member: 215249"]The car will start even without the cable being attached.[/QUOTE]

    Understood. Steve has already connected the starter wire. It's the second wire that's a mystery.
     
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  15. stevo686

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    Thanks guys again for some great info and pics. I'm pretty sure from your diagrams and photos that its the oil sensor connector with the male spade from the oil sensor still in the female connector. Its either lost a very small retaining nut or has snapped off, if its fixed in another way. The diagrams show its really the only other wire in that area and the photo shows that the female connector loos exactly like that one i photographed. I will check the wire colour and the gauge as I can do this without removing the undertray. I will try using a mirror on a stick also to see if I can locate the sensor :).
    I really do want to thank you all as I'm sure you have saved many people from sleepless nights (I'm speaking from experience) spent worrying about their precious pony's :)
    I will let you guys know how it goes
     
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