360 F1 transmission rpm during full throttle shifts - Rpm shooting up

There are several different versions of the TCU software so behavior is a bit dependent on what version you have. BUT, you get the fastest shifts at full throttle. A bit of RPM change does happen and is normal, I don't remember seeing anything like 300-400 RPM change. Feathering off the throttle so it isn't pulling as hard will make smoother shifts but lifting is generally bad and can cause much worse shifts.

Personal guess is that your is behaving properly. I would guess you aren't really seeing 300-400 RPM change and given the shift times it is unlikely you can discern the actual number.

Congratulations on the new car.

 

The system tries to rev match on both upshifts and downshifts, normally by revving the engine on downshifts and cutting the throttle on upshifts. Normally the throttle cut on upshifts at full throttle and high revs is too quick to be heard at 150 ms/shift. Sounds like she is doing the best she can on calibrating revs on the upshift.

On the 575M rev matching only occurs in Sport and not in Normal. Not sure if that is true for the 360, but if it is (have to do some research) that would account for the increase in revs between shifts if you were not in Sport. Shifts are also slower in Normal, so more opportunity for the engine to rev while the clutch is open.

 

Can’t comment on the rev increase on up shift but I can on the throttle lift while shifting. I treated this car just like a manual when I got it and would lift off the accelerator while shifting. This provided a smooth shift for a long time. However after a couple of years it started to completely miss sixth gear. After an F1 relearn was performed it’s been perfect and never missed again.

My theory is the computer always thinks the throttle is being pressed during the shifts so when you lift between shifts it starts to readjust it’s a parameters over time. This eventually leading to my sixth gear constantly being missed then a lock out of all gears.

My clutch life only reduced by 4% over the past 3.5 years so that’s good. However I may risk some clutch life to not be on the highway and have zero gears to go into. Since the relearn almost a year ago I have kept my foot on throttle during shifts and have had zero problems.


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Feathering the throttle on upshifts to smooth them out is only helpful in the lower gears because of the wide spread of ratios. In the upper gears it does not make much difference.

 

At full throttle redline shifting the shift is 150ms. That is about enough time to type "the" if you touch type. Count a second and then consider it is about 1/10th of that time power to power. If you have a noticeable rev change my guess is that your clutch is slipping some so it is slow to engage.

 

My had the same issue when I got it. My mechanic fixed it by running a setup / learning routine with his SD2.

 

Best to have some video footage if possible to help you diagnose further.

However, I would recommend having your PIS Values Reset and everything.

 

Drive the car a few hundred KM more, and then see if the problem gets better.

I had some weird issues with my car, shifting and what-not after a new clutch just recently. Drove it around 1000KM, and now it's all bang on perfect.

To be honest, first video seems perfectly normal/fine to me. Second video, that small bit of a blip, I feel like I have that too, but let me drive the car tomorrow to see.

 

I've never paid that close of attention to the tach when shifting, but the sound was completely normal to me, exactly what my car would sound like. I don't hear a strange over-rev in what you're getting.

 

I have exactly the same in my f430 2005.
Even in lower refs you see a tiny lift. I initially also though it to be an issue.
I went to the dealer who had brought in a F1 specialist from another location. He tested the car on the road and on a bench. Completely normal he said. He explained that the moment the clutch gets activated the resistance on the engine goes down causing it slightly to rev faster.
I wouldnt worry at all. Maybe if it smokes during hard shifting like mine does

 

Seems normal to me... revs inc during shift since clutch Is disengaged and load is taken off engine... so engine rev’s up between shifts.

This is what a manual car will do

Is the f1 tcu different?

 

Yup, F1 cuts the throttle to try and match revs on upshifts and raises the rpm on downshifts for the same reason.

 

Sticky and or old throttle bodies? There seems to be some evidence out there for older throttle bodies butterfly valves getting slower to react.
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/throttle-bodies-show-increased-lag-with-age.627221/

 

Normal, drive it