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430 I Got The Dreaded Pie Symbol

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  1. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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  2. greyboxer

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  3. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    I just powered the car off and back on with the shutoff in the frunk. Still the same symbols on another test drive.


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  4. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    Take out the x431 and do a health check



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  5. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    I did and it shows multiple faults. I cleared the fault codes and the problem still persists.


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  6. kes7u

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    If you list the fault codes, someone might be able to help interpret.

    Kevin
     
  7. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    +1


    Clearing faults doesnt solve the issue

    The reason you record the error codes to help diag the issue ..clear them once you record them and then see which ones come back

    Sometimes a number of errors are stored from a weak start etc .. hence the reason to start fresh but still record the ones listed and let us know they were


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  8. Extreme1

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  9. mike32

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    Connect a volt meter and see how far the battery volts drop when you hit the starter. You can get these if it drops too far
     
  10. CarAholic

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    Are you getting suspension failure and abs failure lights as well?


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  11. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    Yes, I am. Ideas?


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  12. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    Sounds more like a voltage issue /battery issue/ground issue

    As mentioned above check voltage engine off engine on and starting

    Is the battery old ..is it fully charged

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  13. Extreme1

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    It’s a new red top Optima that’s kept on a trickle charger.


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  14. flash32

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    What were the codes ?

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  15. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    Right engine bank
    U0029
    P1059
    P0464
    P1602
    Left engine bank
    P1611

    The above have been there for several months. They never triggered any dash symbols.

    The below ones are new.


    Antilock braking system
    C1505 Steering Angle Sensor

    Suspension Module Sachs Skyhook
    U1706 No Communication with NFR.

    Any thoughts?



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  16. Extreme1

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    Those were all taken under the F131E EV08 setting in the Launch. My car is a 2009 so I’m assuming it’s correct.


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  17. flash32

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    this is a shot in the dark here
    Tur wheel to center
    Disconnect battery with quick disconnect from front ... wait 10 mins
    Turn back on
    Turn key on - do not start engine - wait for ok
    Turn wheel full right and then full left
    put back to center
    start engine and follow the below

    Self-acquisition of the Motronic ECUs works correctly when the intake air temperature is higher than 5°C.
    Therefore make sure the external temperature is not outside the value specified.
    Leave the engine running for approximately 10 minutes in the following conditions:
    car at a standstill with engine idling;
    water at operating temperature;
    all devices off (lights, wipers, etc.);
    air conditioner off.
     
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  18. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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  19. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    Okay, trying this now.


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  20. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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  21. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    Those previous symbols don’t show up on a test drive, but dashes are there instead.


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  22. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    That just means clock needs to be set - look in owners manual to set clock - normal when you disconnect battery

    If you followed the whole process including idling for 10 mins with nothing on .. go for a longer ride now if you can

    When come back check to see if codes came back .. if you didn't wipe them yet .. record and wipe and then drive
     
  23. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    Wow, I know how to set the clock.
    You sir, are awesome :)))


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  24. flash32

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    Thank you :) .. my pleasure .. hopefully it is fixed

    I would strongly suggest you wipe all codes out now and double check no codes after wiping out so that in the future we can see only new ones

    Happy driving
     
  25. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

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    I’ll go for the long test drive tomorrow. Today is hectic.
    Thank you thank you thank you.


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