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355 Is my engine running too cool?

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  1. Targatime

    Targatime Formula 3

    Feb 22, 2014
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    I did some reading in the archives about this and the threads I saw didn't reach a conclusion, so wondering if anyone has additional thoughts. I'm new to the 355 and still not certain in some cases whether I'm seeing a problem or a quirk (this is also my first water-cooled car in 20 years).

    I never see temps above 190F -- radiator fan(s) come on as they should, so that's not a problem. But if I'm cruising down the highway the temps drop well below 190F and stay there, as if the thermostat is stuck open. The below pic was from last weekend, driving a steady 70ish MPH with ambient temps in the mid-70's. And that's where the temp gauge stayed, around 155-160F. Do I have a problem?

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  2. GatedF355GTB

    GatedF355GTB Karting

    Dec 5, 2017
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    Totally normal.

    Most cars these days (at least the ones that have actual temp gauges) rise to the middle and stay there by design. The F355 gauge actually functions like a gauge and not like an idiot light.

    if your thermostat was bad it will take a very long time to get the gauge off full cold.
     
  3. cactussed

    cactussed Karting

    Mar 12, 2008
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    Mine used to do that. Changed the thermostat and temps became steadier. Its a cheap and easy job to do.
     
  4. Mike Morrissey

    Mike Morrissey Formula 3
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    Nov 2, 2018
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    Compare temperature readings using a scan tool on the OBD connector. The instrument cluster gauge receives its signal from the temperature sender, a thermistor type. The readings at the OBD will be from the ECU, a signal from the temperature sensor. The sender and sensor are located close to each other, forward of the oil filter near the heat exchanger, under the coolant recovery tank.
    Normal operating temperature is 190 deg.F. Also check the tightness of the nuts at the flex circuit board behind the gauge. I was experiencing the same issue. I found mine to be less than finger tight.
     
  5. watkinsgt

    watkinsgt Karting

    Feb 4, 2008
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    Mine has operated the way you describe since new. I like engines to run a little cool.
     
  6. Targatime

    Targatime Formula 3

    Feb 22, 2014
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    Thanks all -- good idea Mike on using an OBD reader. My only concern about cool running temps is that they may be cool enough that the ECU sets AFR's richer, but probably in the 150F range the engine is hot enough that mixture is the same as fully hot.
     
  7. Ferrarium

    Ferrarium F1 Veteran
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    Jul 28, 2018
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    348's and even 360's do that. The question is when your not moving or stuck in traffic does it go back up to the 190 range.
    the newer thermostats are a little hotter and open a tad later. I struck a new 355 thermostat from Ricambi in my 348 and it went up 5-10 degrees.
    Cars running too cool is not a good thing cars running too hot is not good. But if it is cool outside they tend to run a bit cool, as mentioned the new 355 thermostat I put in raised it 5-10 degrees across the board or so when running at 70 when its cooler outside. It also idles just above 190 when stuck in traffic. Prior it would never break 190 when stuck in traffic either.

    348 manual lists 178 at the lower end of the operating temp if I recall and it was definitely there or slightly lower before the new thermostat. Check the 355 manual for operating range to be sure. good luck!
     
  8. emac

    emac Formula Junior
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    That is about where mine sits under the same conditions (cruising on mild days). It will creep up as I sit at a light, and then the fan takes over and cools it down.
     
  9. Carmellini

    Carmellini Formula Junior

    Jul 16, 2019
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    As already stated, you need to use a scanner and not rely upon the dash gauge. While cruising, my scanner engine temp reading was 165'; much too low. The coolant temp sensor sends this low temp signal to the ECU, which then adds fuel to richen the mixture.

    The key to my remedy was a new 82'C thermostat. Fuel trims are spot on spec, and after warm up, my low temp at any time is 183'.

    I always thought the same thing, but you do not want your car to run cool.
     
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