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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by DM1, Jan 21, 2018.

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  1. PB033

    PB033 Karting

    Dec 13, 2019
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    Switzerland
    In my opinion, stripes are a must on a speciale, if you buy it as an investment. If it's just for fun, then the car looks in both ways amazing.

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  2. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

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  3. italiafan

    italiafan F1 World Champ
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    Yes. Sometimes the stripe is a little over the top for my mood. I say that owning one with a stripe though, so I have checked that box. I would consider adding a separate stripeless car. I run errands to Publix and Ace hardware in my Speciale though! :)
     
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  4. 2006m5

    2006m5 Formula Junior

    Dec 19, 2008
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    huntingdon valley PA
    There was a nice rosso fuoco at denver ferrari i considered but i passed .
     
  5. Giallo27

    Giallo27 Karting
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    No matter what the reason you want to look for, Speciales are holding price immaculately and steadily you find less and less for sale… sooner than later prices will start increasing instead of just stand still.
     
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  6. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 9, 2008
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    Prices seem to have gone up in the last few months


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  7. Euroryno

    Euroryno Formula Junior

    Feb 2, 2015
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    Agreed. I know of three owners all saying their Speciale is a keeper. Just a matter of time before most end up in the hands of enthusiasts thus diminishing supply.


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  8. Eilig

    Eilig F1 Rookie
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    Yes ~15%
     
  9. pw268

    pw268 Rookie
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    Jul 8, 2014
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    I'm currently in the market and for me, a stripe is required. I'm looking for a "launch-spec" car (Rossa Corsa with blue/white NART, alcantara) with sub 7,000 mi.

    There is a 2015 no-stripe Grigio Silverstone car that just hit the market. It has a contrasting black roof with leather interior and has about 2,5xx miles on it. If interested, it's located at Lamborghini Greenwich (contact Paul Kim).
     
  10. Mikael-F360

    Mikael-F360 Formula Junior

    Apr 3, 2017
    751
    Finland
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    Mikael E.
    I have always wondered why anyone would sell a Speciale. It's a keeper. There is nothing quite comparing on the table. And not coming either.

    Value has nowhere else to go than up. For reasons we all know very well. This car should be the last thing you sell.
     
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  11. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

    Dec 4, 2004
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    There was one in San Francisco I posted not long ago in launch spec. Initial asking was $349k then raised to $365k and sold within a month. Ferrari of Miami put up a red (rosso scuderia) with NART stripe for sale a few days ago $377k ask (under 7k miles).

    https://miami.ferraridealers.com/en_us/search-used-ferrari/2014/ferrari/458_italia/2014_ferrari_458_italia-the_collection-ZFF75VFA4E0203463
     
  12. pw268

    pw268 Rookie
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    I did my due diligence on both cars and passed on them. I went to see the FofSF car personally and passed on it because of (disclosed) paint work to the hood. The stripe on the hood was painted and it was quite obvious. It is too bad because it was local to me and the perfect spec.

    The car at the Collection I had a PPI done on it and passed on this as well. If anyone is interested in that info, please PM me and I'm happy to share my findings!

    Please let me know if you know of any other leads. I appreciate it!
     
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  13. twist-a-grip

    twist-a-grip Karting

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  14. Thecadster

    Thecadster F1 Veteran
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  15. Art138

    Art138 Formula 3
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    I though it would go in the high 400k range. Bodes very well for the Speciale market.
     
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  16. blvckintl

    blvckintl Karting
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  17. FFan5

    FFan5 Formula Junior

    Jul 7, 2018
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    Only for those looking to sell. I consider this bad news, just like when Austin real estate jumps 25% in a month, it is bad news unless you plan on selling soon. Yay for higher insurance premiums and taxes I guess. :-/
     
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  18. Thecadster

    Thecadster F1 Veteran
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    And bad news for would be owners…
     
  19. italiafan

    italiafan F1 World Champ
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    I agree. As a Speciale owner it does give one a little “buzz” to see your car become so desirable. But as someone who has zero intention of ever letting the best regular production V8 Ferrari go from his stable the increased value puts an “anti-driving” pressure on the car. Since not selling it really isn’t about mileage as much as it is about risk of significant damage, fighting insurance company, and then having to look for a replacement.
     
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  20. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
    3,245
    Austin TX
    It's just the beginning, in a few years I think the Speciales will be trading closer to $1M.

    Given the current demand (as represented by so few offered for sale - unlikely to ever be any other way), if you needed to replace your car, regardless of price, you might be waiting a long time for a suitable car to arrive on the market.

    As for the insurance, get a 'stated value' policy, there will be no "fighting" as the value is pre-agreed upon...not only that, if the cars are for trading high values, even salvage cars will be lifted...

    @FFan5 In Texas there are no "taxes" on cars that are already titled, just the annual inspection and plate fee (quite different than real property/i.e. land where annual taxes are assessed based on value)
     
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  21. twist-a-grip

    twist-a-grip Karting

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    #896 twist-a-grip, Aug 27, 2021
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    What about the fighting to get your agreed upon value from $350 to $580?
     
  22. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
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    Typically insurance companies will want a certified appraiser to assess the value. And then it is accepted for the policy.
     
  23. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Do most of you use regular insurance companies or collector car insurance company for the Speciale ?


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  24. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
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    Austin TX
  25. blvckintl

    blvckintl Karting
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    Aug 19, 2018
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    Newport Beach, CA
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