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  1. Majin_JT

    Majin_JT Formula Junior

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    Hoping someone can chime in, had my oil pressure sensor changed today but noticed the oil pressure needle was max all the time, it never seems to move with revs etc. As we all know there are 2 connections on the sensor unit and wire was plugged onto the G connection.

    Am I missing something?

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  2. 360+Volt=Prius

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    Why did you replace it to begin with, Same problem?


    I’m no pro but I would never install used part for an application like this. Like implanting a used defibrillator in a patient, plus new part is not expensive.

    -ray


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  3. Majin_JT

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    A new part was installed, the old part was bouncing up and down on the readings , when I say genuine part was used I actually mean a genuine ferrari part.

    Brand new sensor was fitted
     
  4. 360+Volt=Prius

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    Sorry my misunderstanding. Pressure same when warm both at idle and driving? No change at all?


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  5. Majin_JT

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    Don't be sorry, yes the needle stays at max from cold to running temperature, the only time it moves is when I turn engine off, it simply goes back to the bottom
     
  6. 360+Volt=Prius

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    I do a lot on my car but have not had to replace the oil pressure sender.

    - Check out post #6 in this thread. If it’s correct then may be your problem.

    Oil pressure
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/index.php?threads/Oil-pressure.493910/

    -with car off and ignition on what happens to the needle, pressure should be at zero. If not then has to be electrical.

    -you didn’t use thread tape, I may be wrong but I believe the seal is via a crush washer.

    -then I’d check grounds.

    -next I’d verify the pressure with a mechanical oil pressure gauge.


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  7. 360+Volt=Prius

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  8. wbt

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    G = signal (correct connection for 360)
    WK = warning light - not used on the 360 as the dash software calculates the warning light off the 'G' signal line.
     
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  9. Qavion

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    As previously said, the G terminal is the correct one, so you may have another issue. Perhaps a new old stock sensor which has failed. High pressure = low resistance. Something is shorted. Doesn't sound like a thread (plumbers) tape issue.

    Why did you change the sensor? Did you have the same problem before?

    Check for damaged insulation on the wire. There is a connector behind the left hand seat which will help you break up the circuit into sections. Does the gauge show full deflection with the wire disconnected? (and not touching anything)
     
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  10. Qavion

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    Sorry, this may be incorrect. I've seen this written on FChat, but I double checked on my own car and the gauge goes full scale with the sender wire disconnected. i.e. high resistance = high pressure. Don't believe everything you read on the forum :D
     
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  11. delaney

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    I changed the sensor and got the terminal backwards on reconnection. Needle on max all the time. Only 1 connection. Earth is through the sensor body. Remember, don’t use Teflon tape on the sensor threads...stops the sensor being earthed.
     
  12. Qavion

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    So, to recap...

    The original poster knows the correct terminal to attach it to (see post #1). Telling him 4 times it's not on the right terminal is probably not going to help.

    The defect changed or got worse with the fitment of a brand new sensor (see post #3).

    High resistance (or open circuit) = high reading.

    Therefore... Possibilities:

    teflon tape used on the threads. Not sure it's an engine earthing issue as that probably would cause other problems)
    faulty wire eventually broke
    broken gauge got worse
    brand new Ferrari gauge is broken (not impossible).

    What happens if you put the wire straight to earth (ignition on)?
     
  13. delaney

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    Nothing wrong with reiterating. The G post can be hard to see if the sensor screws in and is upside down...several folk have used Teflon tape resulting in complete isolation or partial earth.
     
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  14. Majin_JT

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    Just to update everyone on my oil sensor, the sensor had some sealer on the terminal and turns out was blocking the signal so all is well.

    I would like to ask I came across a post with another 360 with a humming/wine problem this is the video he posted.



    My car has got a similar noise but not quite as loud.

    Did anyone ever find out what the fix was?

    I have just had nice fresh gearbox oil in, old oil was definitely ready for a change but no horrible surprises like coolant or metal shavings.

    Any one have any solutions?
     
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  15. flash32

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    ring vs pinion gear mesh ? ( bevel gear set)
     
  16. Majin_JT

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    Which part is that could you maybe show me on the parts diagram?
     
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  19. flash32

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    My guess ( only a guess) is still # 1 .. the low torque from 1st and 2nd gear may not make it appear ( loud enough)
     
  20. Majin_JT

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    Thanks for your input now just being silly if it turned out it wasn't that, what else would you check?
     
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  21. flash32

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    The roller bearings , diff , gear pinion gears

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  22. Majin_JT

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    So basically to cut alot of hassle, gearbox off and inspect everything can parts still be had cheaper than actually getting another box because the price of the pinion is about the same as a 2nd hand box
     
  23. flash32

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    Depending on part , you can get them manufactured ( non oem) ..

    Also it could be just setting up diff with correct spacers, preload etc and checking impression on ring gear etc
     
  24. Majin_JT

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    Haha all way too technical for me then
     

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