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  1. BJK

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    In the future, size does not matter. :D Maybe they are only drones. Why risk a lifeform? which couldn't handle the g's anyway? Plus no need to feed or water said lifeform. :)

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  2. spicedriver

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    In the more recent sightings, E.g. the Nimitz encounters, the radar operators had said that the original video was a lot clearer. So the video was likely altered before it was released. I noticed in the 60 Minutes report, that there was a triangle UFO that had been blurred. Even though there are clearer photos of the same UFO already on the net.
     
  3. spicedriver

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    There have been many civilian and military personnel witnesses to dead alien bodies @ the New Mexico crash sights in the '40s. Some have said that in addition to the dead aliens, there were parts of US military uniforms, and human body parts on board. And that this is one of the reasons the military did not want the information released to the public and risk widespread panic.

    The UFO recorded over Puerto Rico is said to only have been 5' in length. This was filmed by a Dept. of Homeland Security aircraft in 2013.

     
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    Harry Reid Interview 05/25/2021

     
  6. spicedriver

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    This is reportedly a radar from the USS Omaha in 2019. The objects being tracked were confirmed by the US Military a being "Unknowns". Video of the event was previously released.

    Source - Jeremy Corbell





    May 27, 2021


    In 2019 US Navy warships were swarmed by UFOs; here is RADAR footage from that event series.



    BACKGROUND

    This footage was filmed in the CIC (Combat Information Center) of the USS Omaha on July 15th 2019 in a warning area off San Diego by Visual Intelligence Personnel (VIPER team). This RADAR data release shows four clips; multiple unknown targets (and one civilian vessel). Some of the unknown targets drop off RADAR in this footage. This happened numerous times throughout the UFO encounter series. At the height of the contacts - there were at least fourteen unknowns observed at one time. The event series reached a crescendo with one of the unknown targets entering the water at 11pm. No wreckage found. None of the unidentified craft were recovered.

    This is corroborative electro-optic data demonstrating a significant UFO event series - where unknowns were swarming US Navy warships. This type of cross-platform information verification is both unique and rare in the pursuit of the UFO mystery.



    TRANSCRIPTION

    :01 “OOD if you can write a general LAT/LONG of where we’re at.”

    :03 [faint voice] “We do have some X-band RADAR tracks…”

    :05 “Yes Sir.”

    :06 “And then… the number of contacts you’ve got. Get the course and speed meters off 'em.”

    :09 “Copy.”

    :10 “You know what I mean? In relative position to us. And bearings. Might be helpful too.”

    :15 “Eyes up.”

    :16 “Eyes down.”

    :18 [intercom] “CSM TAO, maintain track, maintain track as best you can.”

    :24 “Track 781 just sped up to 46 knots. 50 knots. Closing in.”

    :33 “138 knots. Holy ****. They’re going fast. Oh, it’s turning around.”

    :36 “That one’s pretty much perfectly zero zero zero relative, right?”

    :39 “Yeah.”

    :40 “263 at 3 miles. 55 knots, speed.”

    *OOD (Officer of the deck) / CSM (Combat System Manager) / TAO (Tactical Action Officer)



    APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF SHIP / USS OMAHA

    32°29'21.9”N 119°21'53.0”W (Warning area off of San Diego)



    APPROXIMATE DATE & TIME OF EVENT SERIES

    Monday July 15th, between the hours of 9pm - 11pm PST



    DETAILS

    • Minimum 14 targets (estimate).

    • Minimum 6ft in diameter - solid mass (estimate).

    • Varying speeds from 40 kts - 138 kts (46 mph - 158 mph +).

    • Flight lasting longer than an hour.

    • Unknowns were self-illuminated.

    • Neither origin, nor launch or landing points were able to be determined.

    • Unknown vehicles picked up on more than two types of RADAR.

    • Still images of this footage were included in the May 1st, 2020 UAPTF intelligence briefing that I have previously reported on.

    • It is noted in intelligence reports that the “spherical” craft appeared to be transmedium capable, and were observed descending into the water without destruction.

    • It is noted in intelligence reports that the “spherical” craft could not be found upon entry to the water - that a submarine was used in the search - and recovered nothing.

    • This footage is unclassified.

    • Craft remain unidentified - officially.
    “The most impressive evidence we witnessed was their endurance. The event lasted over an hour with all contacts just disappearing. We were never able to discern where they departed to.” - Crewman, USS Omaha
     
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  8. spicedriver

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    I'm sure the Pentagon knows more than most people what drone capabilities various countries have. And yet have still described aircraft from this event as "Unknowns".

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/unidentified-aerial-phenomena-defense-department/index.html
     
  10. Nospinzone

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    Think about how difficult it would be for any other life form to get here.

    Think about how costly it would be to visit earth multiple times over decades or even centuries as some claim.

    Think about how infinitely more intelligent they would be than us.

    Think about how studying us would be a complete waste of time for them as they were in our position probably 1 to 2 million years ago.

    Think about how they have never made contact, or "abducted" into their spacecraft, anyone except for a few farmers and some women in Alabama, Arkansas and Manhattan.

    I don't doubt there are other life forms out there in the universe, but I can tell you with absolute certainty they have NEVER been here.

    Where is Carl Sagan when we need him to inject some sanity into this nonsense?

    P.S. Don't ask me to prove aliens haven't been here, but trust me, I just know. :D
     
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  11. spicedriver

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    I don't agree with "absolute certainty". There should always be some doubt. But I like Carl Sagan's "Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence" paraphrasing ?

    But if you look at some of the evidence with an open mind, I would say that it is extraordinary. Specifically the radar data. Radar data in conjunction with infrared, and visual sightings from highly trained pilots. The Nimitz encounters were the most compelling, IMO. And also UAP materials analysis. Conclusions by geologists that these were manufactured materials with extraterrestrial isotopic ratios.

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54e2719ee4b014cdbc426c33/t/5b639859575d1ff609d4255b/1533253776456/Analysis+Report+on+Metal+Samples+from+San+Augustine+UFO+Crash%28v4%29.pdf

     
  12. Ianjoub

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    I wonder if we have had the gravity distortion technology for these types of maneuvers for a while. Only now, we have the drone capabilities to actually fly and test them without the need for human pilots, who could not physically tolerate the forces involved.
     
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  13. spicedriver

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    Sure. No doubt "Mick West" has more data than the Pentagon, who have confirmed the unknowns. And it's sure odd that this "bokeh" shows up at the same exact time that multiple crew members have seen the unknowns with their own eyes. And recorded the data with the most state of the art radar gear ever developed.

    And our front line carrier pilots ? I guess they're all just a bunch of UFO conspiracy nuts who are just too dumb to be able to figure out what they're looking at. Perhaps we should put "Mick West" in the seat ? At least we'll be done with him the first time he tries to land.

    And the big reveal - a pol got a contract for a private company, who then donated campaign funds to said pol ! Who would have ever thought that could possibly happen ? Get real ? That's the way it works. That's they way it's always worked - ask Nancy Pelosi's husband.
     
  14. 09Scuderia

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    maybe they have always been here. They are visiting...they have been here forever.
     
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  15. spicedriver

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    CIA document describes Tic Tac UFO 70 years ago.

     
  16. spicedriver

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    NYT article on upcoming UAP Report

    WASHINGTON — American intelligence officials have found no evidence that aerial phenomena witnessed by Navy pilots in recent years are alien spacecraft, but they still cannot explain the unusual movements that have mystified scientists and the military, according to senior administration officials briefed on the findings of a highly anticipated government report.

    The report determines that a vast majority of more than 120 incidents over the past two decades did not originate from any American military or other advanced U.S. government technology, the officials said. That determination would appear to eliminate the possibility that Navy pilots who reported seeing unexplained aircraft might have encountered programs the government meant to keep secret.

    But that is about the only conclusive finding in the classified intelligence report, the officials said. And while a forthcoming unclassified version, expected to be released to Congress by June 25, will present few other firm conclusions, senior officials briefed on the intelligence conceded that the very ambiguity of the findings meant the government could not definitively rule out theories that the phenomena observed by military pilots might be alien spacecraft.

    Americans’ long-running fascination with U.F.O.s has intensified in recent weeks in anticipation of the release of the government report. Former President Barack Obama further stoked the interest when he was asked last month about the incidents on “The Late Late Show with James Corden” on CBS.

    “What is true, and I’m actually being serious here,” Mr. Obama said, “is that there is footage and records of objects in the skies that we don’t know exactly what they are.’’

    The report concedes that much about the observed phenomena remains difficult to explain, including their acceleration, as well as ability to change direction and submerge. One possible explanation — that the phenomena could be weather balloons or other research balloons — does not hold up in all cases, the officials said, because of changes in wind speed at the times of some of the interactions.

    The final report will also include a classified annex, the officials said. While the annex will not contain any evidence concluding that the phenomena are alien spacecraft, the officials acknowledged that the fact that it would remain off limits to the public was likely to continue to fuel speculation that the government had secret data about alien visitations to Earth.

    Many of the more than 120 incidents examined in the report are from Navy personnel, officials said. The report also examined incidents involving foreign militaries over the last two decades. Intelligence officials believe at least some of the aerial phenomena could have been experimental technology from a rival power, most likely Russia or China.

    One senior official briefed on the intelligence said without hesitation that U.S. officials knew it was not American technology. He said there was worry among intelligence and military officials that China or Russia could be experimenting with hypersonic technology.

    He and other officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the classified findings in the report.

    Russia has been investing heavily in hypersonics, believing the technology offers it the ability to evade American missile-defense technology. China has also developed hypersonic weaponry, and included it in military parades. If the phenomena were Chinese or Russian aircraft, officials said, that would suggest the two powers’ hypersonic research had far outpaced American military development.

    Navy pilots were often unsettled by the sightings. In one encounter, strange objects — one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind — appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

    Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who was with the Navy for 10 years, told The New York Times in an interview, “These things would be out there all day.” With the speeds he and other pilots observed, he said, “12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

    In late 2014, a Super Hornet pilot had a near collision with one of the objects, and an official mishap report was filed. Some of the incidents were recorded on video, including one taken by a plane’s camera in early 2015 that shows an object zooming over the ocean waves as pilots question what they are watching.

    The Defense Department has been collecting such reports for more than 13 years as part of a shadowy, little-known Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program within the Pentagon. The program analyzed radar data, video footage and accounts provided by the Navy pilots and senior officers.

    The program began in 2007 and was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time. It was officially shut down in 2012, when the money dried up, according to the Pentagon. But Luis Elizondo, who ran the program at the time, said that he continued it until 2017. After the publication of a New York Times article later that year about the program and criticism from program officials that the government was not forthcoming about reports on aerial phenomena, the Pentagon restarted the program last summer as the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force.

    The task force’s mission was to “detect, analyze and catalog” sightings of strange objects in the sky that could pose a threat to national security. But government officials said they also wanted to remove the stigma for service members who report U.F.O. sightings in the hope that more would be encouraged to speak up if they saw something. The goal, officials said, was to give authorities a better idea of what might be out there.

    Last year, lawmakers inserted a provision in the Intelligence Authorization Act that said the government must submit an unclassified report on what it knows about U.F.O.s. That report is the one to be released this month.

    Officials briefed on the report said it also examined video that shows a whitish oval object described as a giant Tic Tac, about the size of a commercial plane, encountered by two Navy fighter jets off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

    In that incident, the pilots reported an interaction with the craft, which lasted for several minutes. At one point, the object peeled away, one of the pilots, Cmdr. David Fravor, later said in an interview with The Times. “It accelerated like nothing I’ve ever seen,” he said.

    The report studies that incident, including the video that accompanied the interaction. The provenance of the object, the officials said, is still unknown.


    Julian E. Barnes is a national security reporter based in Washington, covering the intelligence agencies. Before joining The Times in 2018, he wrote about security matters for The Wall Street Journal. @julianbarnes • Facebook

    Helene Cooper is a Pentagon correspondent. She was previously an editor, diplomatic correspondent and White House correspondent, and was part of the team awarded the 2015 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting, for its coverage of the Ebola epidemic. @helenecooper
     
  17. spicedriver

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  18. Hannibal308

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    Unexplained does not mean alien tech. It’s all just a diversion. This is human tech and just because us no need to know ground pounders can’t explain it, doesn’t mean it’s aliens.
     
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  19. spicedriver

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    Well that could be true. But what's interesting is that the same characteristics that have been observed in recent years, e.g. instant acceleration, hypersonic speeds, lack of control surfaces or visible means of propulsion, were also observed back in the 1940s - 1950s. It would be hard to believe that any Earthly world power had that kind of tech back then.

    Interesting testimony here from an Air Force air traffic controller:

     
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    The Pentagon wants more money. Imagine that.


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    Enjoying the back and forth regarding this topic and amazed to see it hit 3 pages. Clearly polarizing. Of course, defense wants a bigger slice of the budget pie, after all, well trained airmen/women and radars are seeing/reporting something. Ok. But what I find interesting is that those who experienced whatever they're seeing "believe" without a doubt they had an experience or witnessed something well beyond their exceptions or what would be considered a normal day at the office. It'd just be easier, maybe even comforting, if they all came across as nut cases. I guess similarly, it'd be easier if debunkers didn't use our understanding of physics / gravity as an all encompassing "nope, clearly a weather balloon bird" argument. Regardless, it's a great eat some popcorn and watch this from the cheap seats kind of moment for this simpleton as conspiracists, scientists, military personnel, and a few vocal media types hash this all out.

    Oh, and if a green man hops out of space ship in my backyard, we share a cold beer and solve some universal mysteries, I'm taking a selfie, but I ain't telling anyone!
     
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