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tttttttttttthisssssssss is an interesting comment.

 

So many find the car stunning, others think it is nice but not gorgeous while others are disappointed.

If the MSRP is $450K , it will not sell well.

 

So now you are only wanting to compare a car if their performance figures are the same. As well as same price area smh…..

Factors for a close comparison

-V6: Both

-Launch date: with 3 months

-Market section: Same/ similar

-Turbo: Both

-Electrified: Both

-Price: Not official from Ferrari yet but 30% – 40% difference

-Design/Look: Personal with some form equal function factors

-Weigh: Similar


As for Hp as both above have a similar setup clearly Ferrari has produced a much better result in that area.

 

interesting little rear spoiler flip up.

 

I think the idea of that goes with the fun to drive idea (go-kart) less downforce is need due to lower centre of gravity. plus less downforce will add more feeling. Thats my though anyway

 

where is the hybrid motor located?

 

I am curious to see how real world performance is for both models. I am betting they will be comparable but one will be $150K less than the other. I do believe the Arturo and the 296 will be head to head but some will prefer Ferrari because its a Ferrari which is their prerogative.

 

ohh boy... like I think we know Ferrari is Ferrari....or are you getting at something else we need to know.....as in which brand is the superior man bag? Well I think we know that too.

 

They announced 269k Euro that include taxes. So I'm guessing US base 320k

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtr6HQmA-NQ&t=12s

 

1.5 seconds over a lap at fiorano on the f8…impressive… Image Unavailable, Please Login


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I wonder if the 296 is also expected to bring folks into the brand (like the Roma)

This car should be crazy fun on a track

I kind of think for the street, this thing is so over powered, it will be breaking loose a lot, so less experienced drivers will find themselves in trouble before they know it

 

I think this is finally one of those times where Ferrari have produced the Better car (Not blind love for the brand based) with the information at hand. Like you can't wait for real world details. Personally I find the Arturo borning and lifeless as for looks she a dog but thats my personal view. I respect other will feel the opposite.

 

Either way you wouldn't unless you wanted a big hit on your F8

 

Like @Gh21631 said, using Demuro's statements as evidence doesn't really give yourself the best impression. If you applied his same logic on just the 458/488 platform you would find many more transgressions.
I guess everyone has a different view but I don't know how you can view this as a direct competitor against the Artura when this is very clearly meant to replace the 488/F8 level car and the Artura was meant to replace a tier (both in price and horsepower) below.

Going back to the topic at hand, I'm not really a fan of the current generation "face" seen in the F8, SF90, and now this. The slanted eyes combined with the creases in the hood just seem to aggressive and unharmonious with the rest of the body. Focusing further on the front the lower front spoiler juts a bit too far out giving it an underbite. The 250 LM mid and rear is perfect though. Maybe the next generation will fix this.

 

Ive been around long enough and have had enough cars to know that quoted spec's only tell part of the story. If you prefer to believe what you've been told vs. what you will see that is your prerogative. In regards to styling, I think they look similar in some ways but I am not a buyer of either. I would rather buy another Pista.

 

I believe the e motor is sandwiched between the ICE and the transmission (similar to my NSX and the big brother SF 90)

This approach allows them to ditch the starter motor

The ICE starts instantaneously from the e motor and no cranking sound

 

That is why i stated based on the info at hand and that I look forward to the real world details. the HP is a big difference that wont change that much from paper to road. I also take reviews from car mags with a grain of salt. The Pista would be my #1 love from Ferrari in the last 20 years

 

Like it ? Yes . Buy it ? No. Absolutely hate the roof . Nissan ,Koenigsegg style

Like I said all along and confirmed the 296GTB is not a F8/ 488 GTB replacement . Its a new segment. The F8 will sell along with the 296GTB for some time especially the Spyder. Looks like the 296 GTB wont be a spider.
That position relegated to the Portofino M which the M is the go between until the new Portofino with V6 2TT electric is released.

IMO pricing will be Pista price. It needs a bigger gap to the F8 / Portofino

What gets me is Ferraris change in aero. Not questioning them as hell they have their very own wind tunnel but i just dont get it.

First you have whiskers ( Italia ),
then some flaps that open ( Speciale ),
then a double front lip ( 488 GTB ) ,
then a S-Duct with the bumper having side openings ( Pista )
then a smaller S-duct with side openings ( F8 )
then a modified S-Duct on the bonnet ( SF90 )

and now NO openings , No s-duct, No flaps and just a small 12 inch spoiler under the front bumper. Is Ferrari just trying something new with every model. I just dont see any kind of evolution.

They should have called it a Dino.

If someone changed their Pista for this they need their head examined.

 

To all future buyers however lets hope you dont suffer the same issues as the centrally located Turbos in the BMW M50I. Ask those owners how long their engine lasted.

 

Quote from Motortrend
Ferrari is short on specifics, except to caution us from perceiving this car as an entry level offering like the first V-6 almost-Ferrari. European outlets are reporting a 269,000-Euro price which converts to $321,000, with deliveries "in 2022."

 

In terms of wider design acceptance the Ferrari population saw Pista as an immediate WOW. The F8 upon initial release had many questioning whether Ferrari had stitched on a different rear end from another brand, and there were other areas of styling critique many were not totally comfortable with. As time progressed the F8 has become wider loved as many of the former critics steadily came to terms with it.

At this early stage 296 appears to be receiving a better acceptance than F8 and whilst design elements such as the roof and side glass lack cohesion i'm sure over time the design will overall appear more attractive as say what happened with F8.

But no, 296 is not the hit like the Pista was, and it really should have been given it's the 488/F8 replacement! This lack of unquestionable WOW in 292 is most likely due to the design team having to find a way clear of SF90's polarizing design without leaving it sitting completely on top of the scrap heap....which is where it will eventually find its way to (for very obvious reasons).

I expect the update to 296 will adopt more a cohesion design with more immediate WOW.

 

If you don’t think McLaren/Ricardo can keep up or lead in the horsepower wars, then you haven’t been paying attention the last several years. The Artura power levels were predetermined to fit into the chosen price/performance bracket, and the engine tuned accordingly.

The 570S has the same basic block and engine architecture as the 800(+) hp Senna. Turbocharged engines have enormous breadth of tunability.

Let’s revert once they’ve configured their V6 for the 720 replacement…. assuming it’ll use a V6.

 

$45,000 more than an F8? Ah Hell No!

 

Maybe Ferrari will be kind and start the base price at 300k but I don't see it being lower than that

 

Just got word US base price around $375k.


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