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  1. GIOTTO

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    That original stamp is absolute gold. I cannot believe that it survived all of these years. I think you would be well advised to save it rather than make any attempt to reproduce it. It is a valuable part of the car's history.
     
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  4. GermanDino

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    the problem is the car needs full restoration and also needs to be repainted too
    some parts of the car are painted already ,such as the start number fields, Courts name on the driver side....
    many cracks, some paint missing....
    won`t make 100 points in the preservation class....
     
  5. Nuvolari

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    Be that as it may an original Le Mans scrutineer stamp can never be replicated and is a critical part of the car's history. Please research this as old race vehicles are significantly more valuable with the original scrutineer markings and they are normally carefully guarded to prevent damage or removal. Normally it is in the form of a decal on the roll cage or somewhere inside but a stamp on the body like that (especially one looking so good with the year) is an important part of history that needs to be preserved.
     
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    needs to be concidered.... one year time to think about....
     
  7. GermanDino

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    luckly I found already more than 80 period picture of the car at Le Mans or Watkins Glen in 1972...
    but please sent me a private mail if you have anything on offer, particular interested in coloured pictures and anything that shows the car from inside....
    these two pictures I would love to have at high resolution....

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  8. 4CamGT

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    Congratulations Matthias! What an amazing Dino! Love your garage! What carb setup was used for LeMans? What’s in it now? On the LeMans scrutineer stamp, think long and hard about it. Once it’s gone, it’s gone no matter how well it’s reproduced.
     
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  9. Mark Shannon

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    Matthias, can I add my congratulations also, and also my two cents on preserving that stamp.

    I only saw the car once at Laguna Seca during Ferrari week 1994. I send you the two photos.

    Hope all well.
     
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    I would try to have an original paint round section saved with the stamp on it. I have seen a few perfect restorations done that way. Also be very careful with the Lemans 1972 photos of this car as NART kept adding stickers. You want it the way it started the race I would guess. The model I did in 1/24th scale is like it started minus driving lights. Decals also fell off during the race as it rained and NART was very sloppy at applying stickers and preparing cars so they might have stuck the stickers on a greasy dirty car after testing.
     
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    #786 F1tommy, Jul 2, 2021
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    One more photo of my model. Notice the Exhaust wich you can see on your rear angle photo. Very close together. I guessed on the seats based on the Daytona Comp and the edge of the seats in the photo you posted. They could be grey inserts not blue. Hard to tell for sure unless you find a better photo. Also stickers on both sides are not the same.

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  12. GermanDino

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    yes, I do agree, they changed many things the days at Le Mans before the race started....
    for example starting no. lights, removed one wiper, stickers on and off....
    race start is key for me too...
     
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    Reading all 32 pages of this thread was good entertainment today. What an incredible collection.
     
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    will take some time until I will have a closer look at the carbs.... but you will read it here...
    the car had officially 210 horse power

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    Attention, reads SAE PS
    Congratulations to that unique car…
     
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    change of how the H.P. got measured in the US changed end of 1971... from 1972 very similar to Euro DIN H.P....
     
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    +1 Agree. Paul Russell restored a Lusso with an original decal from Charles Pozzi on the rear valance. They somehow managed to paint the car while preserving the decal.
     
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    Obviously they used an old form
     
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    Garage by Götz. Wonderful!

    Amazing feat Matthias, a great achievement in Dino History.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    Here, we live in the land of stamps, as we love bureaucracy.
    If you could send me a very clear copy, or better yet, the artwork of the ACO stamp as on your car,
    I am certain Götz, with his multi faceted talents, can make the art. :)
    I can go to my local stamp maker and have him make one, if he can. After all, it is a rubber stamp
    and white paint.
    At worst, it will not work, at best....success!

    On Monday I'll ask the stamp maker.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    thanks Alberto, but looks like to keep the the patina (80% of the original paint) a mildly restoration is the way going forward.... one more year time for the decission...
     
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    back to the carpets topic... a bit more complex.....
    Court changed most of the carpets 40 years ago because of smell..
    Looks like the original carpet colour was black and red...
    black:
    in front of the rear widow (still original carpet in place)
    back wall, inner sills, middle tunnel (replaced by Court)
    red:
    standard carpet set: under the dashboard and seats, footwell
    (original carpet found in the glove box and in the footwell, near the pedals under the dashboard



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  23. GermanDino

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    more updates on the interior....
    original nero 161: doors, small middle tunnel cover in the footwell, seats ans A-pillar cover panels
    only the co-driver seat was changed in the 1970s, probably taken out / lost and later replaced with a used original black leather seat
    steering wheel still original in mint condition
    original dashboard, only one wrong hole in the radio hole cover panel, possible to recover
    interestingly the car came with original door pockets from factory
    original sunvisors unfortunately missing....



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    any at Le Mans 1972 taken interior picture appreciated....
    also this picture in high resolution...
    clearly shows the gear knob and the uncovered hand brake....

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