430 Manually blip ping throttle with f1?

If you have you foot on throttle it will blip more
Just depends if u want to decell or maintain speed

 

Cs tcu in mine it blips I love it

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This is generally a bad idea. When you change throttle setting during the shift you really don't know what you will get for a match. It really tends to confuse the TCU so you generally get a poor match, a bit of gear banging, and extra stress on the syncros.

 

Manually blipping the throttle on downshifts is where it’s at.
That’s the beauty of the system. Manual blips make the F1 downshifts not clunky and extra smooth. The system seems to love it.

I do it constantly and it’s great.

 

New one on me I must admit. I also fund downshifts a bit odd in mine, I hardly ever get a blip, not sure if that’s normal or not.

 

I'll add that I'm doing this in the 355 and CS. I don't have a 430, but assume it's the same.

 

Roger.

 

I must admit I’m struggling with this a little. I thought the system was designed for you to not do this as it does it for you. It just seems counter intuitive.

 

Basically yes. It has to be done so quickly that you just stab the gas and pull the downshift paddle at the same time. The tranny drops perfectly into the next lower gear without all the clunkiness that people complain about. So essentially just like a manual. If everyone knew to do this the F1 would be much more appreciated. It’s engaging and fun. There was a video posted here at one point showing heal and toe shifting with the F1 transmission but I can’t find it.

Starting with the 458 you can’t do this, but the computers do it far better at this point.
In the 355,360, and I would think 430 the computer blip on downshift is so anemic that I think this is what makes people think the tranny is clunky and slow.

go give it a try and I think you’ll see what I mean.

 

I get what your saying, but remember this is very old technology and the 1st generation of its kind. it was cutting edge at the time, but not yet perfected. You can certainly allow the computer to do it for you, but doing it yourself takes the system to another level.

I’ll also add that the computer downshifts for you far better at high rpm than at lower rpm. So, adding rpm yourself at lower speeds / rpm really smooths things out. I do the blipping myself out of habit now in all scenarios on both the 355 and CS.

I imagine that someone who designed the system allowed for this for a reason.
Regardless, it works and totally changes the experience of the F1 system.

 

Also don’t get caught up in trying to rev match. Just stab the gas and pull the throttle quickly at the same time is all it takes. Within 10 try’s you’ll get used to it.

 

Sounds very cool! Kind of wish I still had my F1 to try it!!!

Kevin

 

Go get you another. It seems nobody wants one.

 

Give it a go and see if you get a more satisfying experience.

 

Hmm. I'm really not sure about this, I'm visiting my dealer tomorrow so will ask them and see what they think.

 

With the F1 everyone thinks differently.
For clutch wear I don't think it matters much.
Reverse driving uphill and slow crawling will

 

The reason the F355 needed to be heeled and toed was that there was no digital throttle and cable throttle authority was insufficient to match revs. The 360 and F430 have digital throttles that match revs fine, for sure in Sport (360) or Race (F430). The OM pretty much specifically says not to change the throttle setting when shifting. In the 575M, there is no rev matching in Normal and there is in Sport, but I have not researched it for the 360 or F430. Sounds like Ferrari thinks you are making more work for the synchros with the manual blip and very slightly increasing clutch wear.

 

So had a chat with a Ferrari tech today at my dealer and he said you can do it but it's pretty pointless as the engine does it all for you, there is no advantage to be gained (beyond a satisfying audible blip). I did try it myself on the way to my dealer and yes it works but I can't see myself doing it on a regular basis. Tech did say that it's a manual clutch after all so theoretically a manual blip is entirely possible but as I say, he thought it was a bit pointless. You wouldn't be able to do it on a 458 of course...

 

Thanks for the feedback, but it’s not pointless.
On downshifts, this practice makes the gear transition much smoother than the computer seems to be able to. Especially at lower rpms.

it’s also more engaging and fun.

 

Ferrari tech says it’s pointless. If you think you can outsmart a computer, props to you but I think I’ll just let it behave the way it was designed to do.

 

Then enjoy the clunkiness. Keep in mind if you’re going to a dealership most the techs these days have no clue about a car as old as the 355.