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Early 246E RHD Fuse / Relay Panel

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  1. sturrisi

    sturrisi Karting

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    Does anyone have a picture / photo of an original Fuse/ Relay control panel from which I could copy to remanufacture a fuse panel for my car #02868 ( November 1971) Australian delivered.
     
  2. dgt

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    Sam, I have a template for #02750 but it's LHD. Happy to post it if it's the same.
     
  3. sturrisi

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    #3 sturrisi, Jul 5, 2021
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    Thanks Andrew but no they are not the same.
    There is a USA version LHD, an European version LHD and RHD version UK and I think the Australian delivered cars were slightly different again from the UK cars.
    The one that was in my car, although functional, is not correct for any of the versions. It had been significantly altered during a previous "restoration" about 40 years ago.

    Is there anyone with an Australian delivered car with an original unmolested fuse panel, can I please have a photo of it.
    regards Sam
     
  4. russh

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    Hi Sam, I am not sure if this is of any help, but Maranello Classic Parts lists what looks like a right hand drive fuse panel under part number 20258109. Maybe you can compare it to what you have to see how closely it might resemble what you have. Take care.
    Russell
     
  5. sturrisi

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    Thank you Russell for finding that. Yes, it is helpful. The panel picture from Maranello Classic Parts appears to be correct for RHD and fits in with what I've seen in UK cars.
    I'm still uncertain if the Australian delivered cars had the same as the UK cars and that's what I'm trying to clarify. There must be someone who knows the answer to that.
    regards Sam
     
  6. pshoejberg

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    Maybe start with showing us a picture of your old panel. It seems a bit odd if there should any significant differences between same model but different countries. It should be fairly easy to produce your own base panel based on inputs from this forum. I have the layout for the early 246’s if of any interest.
    Best, Peter
     
  7. sturrisi

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    #7 sturrisi, Jul 9, 2021
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    Thank you Peter, yes I agree with you but the more I try to look into it, the more confused I become. Making the panel is the easy part will it be “Factory Correct” for my car that is the issue.
    Your car is an early L series and the fuse/relay panel is totally different again to my early E series.

    The panel from my car looks like this:
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    Based on what I’ve seen, this is not correct, I think.

    The parts book shows:

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    G.D. (guida destra) - Right Hand Drive.

    So, I thought it should look like this:

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    also based on other images I've seen

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    and this would require the panel as is for sale by "Maranello Classic Parts" that Russell found:
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    But, then there is this:
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    This is very similar to the layout on my car ( except for the extra relay). I have seen many variations of the two and all slightly different.
    Is there a difference from UK to Australian delivered RHD cars? I don't know.
    I wish someone could validate the "factory correct" layout of the panel that should be in my car and is why I'm asking for a photo of an unaltered "virgin" Australian delivered car of about the same period. I'm sure that there is some one who can answer my question.
    Many thanks in anticipation.
    regards Sam

    PS Also mine was fixed by a central bolt attached to the spare wheel tub with a hole in the center of the panel (as in the last picture) and there was no metal holding frame. Is this correct?
     
  8. GermanDino

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    Hello Sam,

    be careful, the fuse board for early and late E-series is different.
    Attached a picture of the original LHD #02466 fuse boeard, position of the regulator of the alternator is at the left side.... should be the same on your fuse boeard.
    Position in the middle is late E-series...
    Would surprise me,if there would be a difference between RHD Australia and UK delivery....

    regards Mattias
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  9. sturrisi

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    #9 sturrisi, Jul 9, 2021
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    Thanks Mattias,
    I'm so grateful to you for clarifying this for me and I am relieved that now I can proceed with some certainty that it will be factory and period correct.
    Just a question, my panel has only 2 relays- 1 for lights and 1 for cooling fans. the one in your picture has 3. What is the 3rd relay for?
    kind regards, Sam

    PS Is that for air-conditioning?
     
  10. GermanDino

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    this is #02678 Le Mans (early E-series) only two relays but early fuse panel set up
    no.: 33213 - radiator cooling fan
    no.: 33231 - lights relay
    (same two relays as for late E-series with late fuse panel set up)

    206 GT to M-series and maybe also for very early E-series
    no.: 33252 - charging circuit relay
    no.: 33231 - lights relay
    no.: 33232 - radiator cooling fan

    I hope that`s correct.... as Ferrari`s documentation is very confusing too... and not always correct.....
     

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  11. sturrisi

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  12. dgt

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    Sam,
    The mechanical parts book for your car has a red cover, publication # 52/71 from S/N #02132, the later E-series manual you showed which is more easily available can lead you astray on early E-series as Matthias pointed out, although it does show many of the correct body parts.
    Unfortunately, manual 52/71 doesn't show the fuse panel but it does show the changes for RHD cars in the back.

    My fuse board was original when I got my car, restored below. #02750 Euro LHD. Seems like it might be the same according to the discussion...
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  13. GermanDino

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    makes sence to me... as RHD Dinos had the hazard warning system....
    Italian delivered LHD not.....
     
  14. sturrisi

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    Andrew, Great close-up picture for me to follow and from what Mattias has said #02868 should be similar to it plus the emergency hazard flasher which seems that it was a feature of the RHD.
    I've been very confused over this, but now it is very clear that I can proceed with the knowledge that I'm doing it correctly.
    Thank you Mattias and Andrew, you both have been a great help.
    regards Sam
     
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