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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The stars were aligned for Hamilton yesterday.
     
  2. jpalmito

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    You are right ,
    tyres too
     
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  3. 375+

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    No more spare cars.
     
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  4. pilotoCS

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    The official word is they had to have time to fix the barriers.
     
  5. jpalmito

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    I know, i know..
    I just don't see why safety car procedure isn't safe enough for people who are working to fix the barriers ..
     
  6. ypsilon

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    #631 ypsilon, Jul 19, 2021
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    I don't think Max needs to descend to the level of Hamilton. Lewis has been making many mistakes this season, in Imola 3, in Baku, in Monaco and now Silverstone. It's a miracle Hamilton is still in Max's slipstream, pointwise.

    Speaking of Hamilton, he again showed what an disinignious, theatrical character he is. A character that demands so called respect from his suroundings. He apparently loves "racing", yet when someone actually races him, something unique in itself given the Mercedes dominance of this past 8 years, doesn't seem to know the difference between actual racing (aggresive or not), and making racing errors. He apparently loves the challenge of a title fight, yet the only persons capable these past 8 years were his teammates. And we all know how and why he loves Bottas as a teammate and the antics he used against Rosberg on and off the track.

    It's all part of Hamilton's make-belief persona, the character Lewis want to be, how he wants to be seen; Lewis the ultimate racer, the new Senna. In reality Lewis likes receiving applause and Senna'esque comparisons when he wheels in another one of his easy wins from pole position, unchallenged. That's what he really seems to love.

    Like the stewards decided yesterday, Hamilton made the "mistake", a "mistake" which he later didn't make when passing LeClerc. Lewis suddenly was on the apex. A corner that wasn't his given his position on the inside, comming from the dirty side of the track, in a blind corner, with one of the highest speeds on the F1 calendar. And Max gave him enough space.

    Given the wrought-up way Lewis approached that first lap in Silverstone, it's clear he had something to prove on his home track. No doubt frustrated about the way the season unfolded, the way Max outclassed him with superior racecraft and fewer mistakes. After the race it became clear that both Lewis and Totto want to take the rivalry to a new and possibly unhealthy level, let's hope it doesn't end in an even more serious crash.

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  7. rdefabri

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    There was some commentary about not being able to touch the RB car due to a red light on it (no idea where or what that refers to) - what was the reason for that?
     
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  8. ypsilon

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    And of course we all know Lewis' flexible opinions;

     
  9. furoni

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    Good colour choice...hope without Stripes or lips
     
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  10. jpalmito

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    Post of the day
     
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  11. freshmeat

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  12. JJ

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    Best post in this thread.

    May I ask where you got the last image?
     
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  13. trumpet77

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    Perez had a bad weekend, BUT, taking fastest lap away from HAM and the 1 point keeps Red Bull up by an enormous lead of 4 points in the constructors!

    LEC, great drive, especially when the F1 broadcast predictor thing said HAM would pass him in 2 laps on the re-start or so!

    If you're on this forum you love F1, but apparently most of us love or hate VER/HAM. Still amazes me that Max has "lost" a win by passing off track, "lost" a win with the flat in Baku, and maybe "lost" at Silverstone (no points at least) yet is still leading the championship.

    Was really hoping Bottas was going to fight HAM, but he didn't. Started 3rd, ended 3rd, apparently he's the driver Mercedes want to back up HAM, so maybe Mercedes keeps him?

    With people mentioning Prost/Senna at Suzuka, well, hold that thought, and let's see if the final race or two of the season sees them both with a chance to win, and we'll find out who wants the championship more. If you need to finish to be a champ (you're trailing the other driver in the last race) you avoid that collision and fight to the last lap.
     
  14. jpalmito

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    Amen !
     
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  15. ktu

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    Are you seriuos? All a sudden Max is an angel on the track? Max has been agressive with Hamilton all season. Look at the angle of Max front wheels vs Leclerc's. Both Max and Ham was agressive in this case and Max's bullying backfired on him. If it were Hamilton you all would be singing a different tune. Ham served his penalty. Stop whining, take this result, and move to next race..
     
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  16. NeuroBeaker

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    I think the callous way he put on a huge show of celebrating amidst his gaslighting narrative that he was fighting back from an unjust penalty to triumph demonstrated that his brand built on the concept of overcoming more adversity than everyone else is the only thing that's important to him.

    Horner was right, that one was a hollow victory. Lacking any tact or contrition, Wolff viewed it as "a win is a win", so apparently the manner in which you conduct yourselves to be competitive is not all that important to Hamilton or the Mercedes team.

    Those are their true feelings that they're doubling down on. The only contrition either might feign will be because they perceive brand damage occurring that could be mitigated by a solemn appearance to deliver a heartfelt show of emotional maturity and empathy for all those who risk their lives to put on a good show, with plenty of throat clearing, etc. And then immediately back to winning at all costs.

    Hamilton's "fight back" narrative while Verstappen was in hospital was a watershed moment for me. He's not a gentleman.

    All the best,
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  17. william

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    A purist may call it a hollow victory, but not the pragmatic soul that I am.

    Hamilton is back in the saddle to fight the rest of the season, and gave a warning to his rival that he won't be pushed around.

    So Max has better think twice before trying another move on Hamilton. He will learn his lesson, or not ...

    It's the end result that matters, and not the next corner. Hamilton knows how to lead a championship, Max has yet to learn it.
     
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  18. Natkingcolebasket69

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    And Verstappen is a gentleman?!!


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  19. JJ

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    Verstappen is no gentleman. He's just in the right for this particular incident.

    If you murder someone who has murdered someone in the past, you're still a murderer.
     
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  20. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Yeah but none of them murdered anybody. Let’s bring this back to earth.
    They are both rich guys making well over 40millions yo drive a car.
    This is a sporting event not a social event. They are just athletes.
    End of the story.


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  21. JJ

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    If you punt Napoleon in Copse, it doesn't matter how many wars he started. You still punted Napoleon in Copse.
     
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    There's another forum here on F-chat where it's stated "not for the faint of heart". This applies to almost every level of "professional" racing and especially F1. But that sure doesn't stop the whinging, does it?
     
  23. classic308

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    Good analysis here.

     
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  24. freshmeat

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    Look, it's all fun and games until one of them dies or gets seriously injured. That'll be the end of the story.

    I doubt it will come to that and I'm 100% certain that if a repeat collision happens between the two, the stewards will come down very harshly to keep the aggression of the two ____________ (insert your preferred noun) and their respective teams in check.

    What's really disgraceful is all the racist commentary and the British fans cheering in jubilee for a human possibly losing his life in a high-impact crash. F**k those pond scum.

     
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  25. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Agreed. Fans will be fans. Germans did the exact same to hakkinen when his tyre exploded at hockenheim…
    Sadly nothing new.


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