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2003 Lamborghini Murcielago - 12,900 Miles - Rare Blue Ely - 6 Speed Manual

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  1. NuorderSG

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    Porsche manual T cars are still rather affordable. Sadly, despite their awesome handing, there is nothing like V8 or V12 power....so Porsches are a distant second choice in that department.
     
  2. GatedMurci

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    Only 191 manual Murci's were brought to the U.S.

    Curated found "More than 50-60% of the Murcielago examples that made it to the USA have been involved in some sort of accident or were a total loss. Of the remaining examples left, another 50% have very high mileage". https://wearecurated.com/2003-lamborghini-murcielago/

    People are realizing these are not only amazing cars but a great investment. And the sound with a proper exhaust :D
     
  3. rumen1

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    #28 rumen1, Aug 17, 2021
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    Still wonder why people think that early manual Murcis are a rarity, when all early cars (02-03) are manual only...
     
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  4. redhammer

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    Roughly 4100 total production for Murcielago all years, about 2200 are pre LP cars. Out of 2200 cars, under 1000 are manual. It’s estimated US has about 200 manual murcielagos.
     
  5. rumen1

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    Well that, most of all, means, that the Murci is a rare car as a whole. :)
     
  6. tres55

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    Murcielago has a cult like following. Demand will far outstrip supply especially considering half or more aren't manual.
     
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  7. rumen1

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    Not that I will ever consider selling mine, but hope you're right. However, not such thing is happening at the moment, at least in Europe.
     
  8. GatedMurci

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    Bring a Trailer has a Verde Ithaca manual Murci, the auction ends in an hour if anyone is interested.
     
  9. rumen1

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    Hah, this is absolutely an identical copy of my car - same color, same year, same gearbox, same everything... I needed to go to the garage to verify if my car is still there, thought it is the same car :D :D :D

    For sure 2006 is the best option, mainly because of the bigger brakes, which really transform the car.
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  10. GatedMurci

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    Sold for $520,000 after 5K Bring a Trailer fee added to $515,000 final bid.

    I hope this one gets driven!
     
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  11. tres55

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    That has to be a record for a pre-LP?
     
  12. goldlifter

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    05/06 gated Murcis are truly the PreLp cars to own as they have the much needed larger brakes, better suspension and updated ignition system(04's had this as well)
     
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  13. P Zero

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    Insane. I don't understand the numbers they are bringing right now.
     
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  14. NaO

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    I didn't read the date on the op and nearly had a heart attack.


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  15. GatedMurci

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    There are more Porsche Carrera GT's than manual Murcielago's in the world. Those went from $350,000 to $1,250,000 over the last few years.

    No other car checks the boxes V12, manual, mid engine, Italian, reliable and one of the best exhaust notes for anywhere under $1,000,000. After years of searching the Vinwiki list of manual first generation US Murcielagos shows 191 coupes and roadsters combined. There are probably a few more hiding in collections. The other issue is that many have been crashed, totalled or completely abused.

    It is worth noting that 02-03 are the fastest of the first generation. 02-03 apparently need valve adjustment later at 40k miles while 04-06 need it earlier at 30k miles. Other sources in the know say 03 is the best year including Whiteout (reliable Murci source on L forums). Bigger brakes are nice on the 05-06. In 04+ the adjustable suspension was replaced with non-adjustable. Whiteout also says 02-03 is more comfortable. I think the first generation of all years are really very similar and I doubt brakes, unadjustable suspension and different coil packs make much of a value difference at all. 05-06 do have roadsters which could be more valuable to roadster lovers. I fear many manual Murcielagos will go from being driven every Sunday to being parked and preserved.
     
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  16. rumen1

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    Believe me, the upgraded brakes and suspension are making such a big difference when you drive the car as intended, that it almost makes it a different car.That is why when I searched for a car to buy, I only searched for a 04-06 model, as I really like to drive my cars as they are made to be driven.

    And as for being parked and preserved - I am a member of a Facebook group for Murci owners (I think Ed Bolian is also a member there) and there are a lot of people, who are getting close to 60 000 miles / 100 000 km mileage with these. I had 6000 km with mine only this year and even have driven it on the track at Red Bull ring. I think that "low mileage" nonsense is mainly seen in the US and not so much in Europe and rest of the world. Curated are mostly responsible for this, I guess.

    And to be honest - the CGT is definitely a better car than the Murci, but it is a lot different. And I doubt a normal gated Murci will ever become a 7-figure car, but honestly - as an owner, I really don't care much about going up in value. These cars are meant to be driven and money is definitely not everything in this life.
     
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  17. technom3

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    Carrera gt haven't been 350k for over a decade.
     
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  18. ralfabco

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    550 Maranello checks almost all of those boxes - aside from being a front-engine car. It's also nice looking. Relatively inexpensive cost of entry for a V-12 manual exotic.

    Murcielago also used to be relatively inexpensive to purchase, for a V-12 manual mid-engine exotic.
     
  19. GatedMurci

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    Another gated for auction on Bring a Trailer.

    @SupercarGuru Do you have any incoming?
     
  20. SupercarGuru

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    Maybe... : )
     
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  22. JTSE30

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    they were all the same color, resembling a color used on the Ford Probe, never understood that color choice for all of them, unflattering color choice, that may be why they are not as recognized, not to mention the "serial number" has no relationship to the VIN (unlike the SE30) and not to mention there is nothing special about the drivetrain, also unlike the SE30...it's just badge and specific interior trim for the 40th

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  23. rumen1

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    I personally like the color. The dark grey Speedline wheels are the main downside for me. These wheels only look good in silver and if it should be dark grey, then the wheels should be the Hercules model.
     
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  24. FerrariFinally

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    I second "liking" the 40th teal Murci color. I think it is striking!
     
  25. ralfabco

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    Years ago the 40th was price as low, as 125K ask. The premium with this listing is for the mileage. The Probe looks great. My guess most wild colors work well with L cars. The opposite is true with the other brand.
     

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